{"id":95998,"date":"2016-06-10T19:14:42","date_gmt":"2016-06-10T23:14:42","guid":{"rendered":"\/news\/?p=95998"},"modified":"2016-08-31T17:57:15","modified_gmt":"2016-08-31T21:57:15","slug":"thinkprogress-says-dismemberment-abortion-is-misleading-but-is-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/thinkprogress-says-dismemberment-abortion-is-misleading-but-is-it\/","title":{"rendered":"ThinkProgress thinks &#8220;dismemberment abortion&#8221; is misleading, but is it?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><p>Louisiana recently became the <a href=\"\/news\/louisiana-governor-signs-dismemberment-abortion-ban\/\">latest state to ban<\/a> the dismemberment abortion procedure, also known as dilation &amp; evacuation abortion. With something as manifestly vile as tearing children limb from limb in the public eye, abortion apologists have their work cut out for them in sanitizing things.<\/p>\n<p>Or, they would put work into it if there was any possible way to make dismembering babies sound any better. But there\u2019s not, so ThinkProgress\u2019s Laurel Raymond <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/health\/2016\/06\/03\/3784175\/abortion-restriction-indiana\/\">has settled for the next best thing<\/a>: deny, deny, deny; and hope nobody asks too many questions&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">[D&amp;E abortion is] held up by the World Health Organization as the gold standard for later abortions, and is the only remaining legal option for second trimester abortions \u2014 which comprise about 10 percent of abortions \u2014 that doctors consider safe.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Or is it that D&amp;E abortions are better <em><a href=\"\/news\/planned-parenthoods-pre-abortion-dilation-practice-best-women-planned-parenthood\/\">for the abortionists<\/a><\/em>, so they can fit more abortions into their schedule? The WHO <a href=\"\/news\/fact-check-does-the-gates-foundation-fund-abortion\/\">has<\/a> <a href=\"\/news\/abortion-clinics-unlicensed-tattoo-parlors-chiropractors-regulations\/\">been<\/a> <a href=\"\/news\/obama-campaign-overturning-roe-too-extreme\/\">known<\/a> to show a pro-abortion slant before, so its approval isn\u2019t exactly the last word on the subject. Moreover, as Ian Tuttle <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalreview.com\/article\/417061\/defending-abortion-dismemberment-isnt-easy-ian-tuttle\">explains<\/a>, saying we must allow dismemberment abortions for the sake of maternal safety \u201cmistakes \u2014 or substitutes \u2014 a secondary question for the primary moral one,\u201d which is, \u201cdoes the procedure involve one human being, or two?\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Abortion opponents, however, have targeted the procedure with graphic and inflammatory terms, misleadingly describing it as tearing babies \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/health\/2016\/05\/09\/3776058\/de-ban-state-trend\/\">limb from limb<\/a>.\u201d Anti-abortion advocates have even compared D&amp;E to the medieval torture <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lifesitenews.com\/opinion\/national-right-to-life-ups-ante-and-pushes-new-dismemberment-abortion-ban-o\">drawing and quartering<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Rather than ask a single reader to believe a pro-lifer, let\u2019s discredit this lie using nothing but direct quotes from the abortion industry itself. The National Abortion Federation\u2019s own instructional materials <a href=\"\/news\/naral-calls-kansas-abortion-dismemberment-ban-medically-inaccurate\/\">describe<\/a> \u201cgrasping a fetal part,\u201d then \u201cwithdraw[ing] the forceps while gently rotating it,\u201d for the purpose of achieving \u201cseparation.\u201d If that\u2019s not clear enough, NAF also describes \u201cfetal extremit[ies]\u201d (i.e., limbs), \u201cfetal trunk[s],\u201d and \u201cfetal skeletal development.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Additionally, <a href=\"\/news\/tag\/warren-hern\/\">notorious<\/a> late-term abortionist Warren Hern even <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nrlc.org\/uploads\/stateleg\/DismembermentFAQJan15.pdf\">confirms<\/a> \u201cthere is no possibility of denial of an act of destruction by the operator [of D&amp;E procedures]. It is before one&#8217;s eyes. The sensations of dismemberment flow through the forceps like an electric current.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Listen to former abortionist Dr. Anthony Levatino explain the process of a D&amp;E abortion:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/jgw4X7Dw_3k\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Instead of making even the most cursory effort to explain how on Earth \u201cseparation\u201d of a \u201cfetal extremity\u201d from a \u201cfetal trunk\u201d doesn\u2019t constitute dismemberment, Raymond next attempts to cast this as the sequel to pro-lifers deceiving America on the truth about partial-birth abortions:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">[D]octors used to also perform abortions via a procedure called Intact Dilation &amp; Extraction, or \u201cD&amp;X,\u201d which involved dilating the cervix and extracting the whole fetus. In the late 1990s and early 2000s, however, the National Right to Life dubbed this medical procedure \u201cpartial birth abortion.\u201d They commissioned graphic, misleading illustrations of D&amp;X and placed them as paid advertisements in newspapers, shifting the conversation from the women needing a safe medical procedure to a gruesome discussion about crushing the skulls of unborn babies.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Once again, notice ThinkProgress\u2019s complete lack of any effort to explain precisely how \u201cpartial birth\u201d is misleading. Hilariously, she links another ThinkProgress\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/health\/2015\/01\/31\/3617078\/fetal-dismemberment-bills\/\">article<\/a> to back her up\u2026an article saying that in D&amp;X abortions, \u201cthe cervix is dilated to allow an entire fetus to pass through.\u201d Pass through? As in partially delivered? Delivered, as in born? Partially? (Like with D&amp;E\u2019s, Hern <a href=\"http:\/\/www.abort73.com\/abortion\/abortion_techniques\/\">admits<\/a> that D&amp;X\u2019s entail \u201cdeliver[ing]\u201d fetuses.)<\/p>\n<p>Later, she links Slate\u2019s William Saletan\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/articles\/news_and_politics\/frame_game\/2003\/10\/the_partialbirth_myth.html\">effort<\/a> to explain how the birth in a partial-birth abortion isn\u2019t really a birth, and it\u2019s every bit as insipid as you\u2019re expecting:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">This procedure doesn&#8217;t take place anywhere near the appointed hour of birth. If you paid close attention to the Senate debate, you might have noticed the part where Santorum said the procedure was performed &#8220;at least 20 weeks, and in many cases, 21, 22, 23, 24 weeks [into pregnancy], and in rarer cases, beyond that.&#8221; He didn&#8217;t clarify how many of these abortions took place past the 20th week. A full-term pregnancy is 40 weeks. In 1992, the Supreme Court mentioned that viability could &#8220;sometimes&#8221; occur at 23 or 24 weeks. Santorum described a 1-pound fetus as &#8220;a fully formed baby,&#8221; noting that while it was only at 20 weeks gestation, it had a complete set of features and extremities. But according to the National Center for Health Statistics, the survival rate for babies born weighing 500 grams or less\u2014that&#8217;s 1 pound, 1 ounce or less\u2014is 14 percent.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-67013\" src=\"https:\/\/www.liveactionnews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/partialbirthabortion.jpg\" alt=\"partialbirthabortion\" width=\"672\" height=\"372\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/partialbirthabortion.jpg 672w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/partialbirthabortion-300x166.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 672px) 100vw, 672px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>So \u201cpartial-birth abortion\u201d is only inaccurate because births before the due date aren\u2019t technically births? By that logic, all the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/reproductivehealth\/maternalinfanthealth\/pretermbirth.htm\">preemies<\/a> who ever lived were never born. This might even be more vapid than Saletan repeating the old saw that a high rate of death in a group somehow <a href=\"\/news\/a-simple-argument-against-abortion-that-even-liberals-can-understand\/\">means members of the group were never alive<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Many Americans were confused by the contradictory term \u201cpartial birth,\u201d and the emotive framing and exploitation of the \u2018ick\u2019 factor worked.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Looks like somebody didn\u2019t read <a href=\"\/news\/pro-lifers-arent-trying-ban-abortion-gross\/\">Cassy Fiano&#8217;s takedown<\/a> of the straw-man argument that \u201cgrossness\u201d is the only reason to detest violence against children.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s expected for propagandists to lie, but stunning that they would put so little effort into making their lies plausible. Then again, the job of devil\u2019s advocate is all-but impossible when the subject to be defended is <a href=\"\/news\/planned-parenthood-americas-tolerance-evil\/\">literally devilish<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Louisiana recently became the latest state to ban the dismemberment abortion procedure, also known as dilation &amp; evacuation abortion. With something as manifestly vile as tearing children limb from limb in the public eye, abortion apologists have their work cut out for them in sanitizing things. Or, they would put work into it if there [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":54,"featured_media":90227,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false},"categories":[6],"tags":[19,1333,70,3291,9083,741,814,500,4937,686,1919,5557],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v20.7 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>ThinkProgress thinks &quot;dismemberment abortion&quot; is misleading, but is it?<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Late-term abortionist Warren Hern used the term &quot;dismemberment&quot; to refer to a D&amp;E, and NAF describes &quot;separating&quot; fetal limbs - so is the term inaccurate?\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/thinkprogress-says-dismemberment-abortion-is-misleading-but-is-it\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"ThinkProgress thinks &quot;dismemberment abortion&quot; 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