{"id":87145,"date":"2016-02-07T01:24:53","date_gmt":"2016-02-07T06:24:53","guid":{"rendered":"\/news\/?p=87145"},"modified":"2016-02-08T15:19:22","modified_gmt":"2016-02-08T20:19:22","slug":"christie-sees-immediate-backlash-comments-abortion-rape-gop-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/christie-sees-immediate-backlash-comments-abortion-rape-gop-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"Christie sees immediate backlash from comments on abortion for rape at GOP debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><p>During Saturday night&#8217;s GOP debate, one question focused on the issue of abortion, as moderator Mary Katherine Ham acknowledged that most Millennials support restrictions on abortion.<\/p>\n<p>But Chris Christie &#8211; who had earlier stated that he was pro-life for all life, including &#8220;when it&#8217;s a lot more complicated&#8221; &#8211; made an outrageous error. Christie&#8217;s pro-life bona fides have been questioned before, as years ago, he <a href=\"\/news\/chris-christie-under-fire-donate-planned-parenthood-1994\/\">referenced a personal donation to Planned Parenthood<\/a>. The New Jersey governor had seemed to possibly redeem himself with his bulldog approach to Planned Parenthood&#8217;s sale of baby body parts and his commitment to defund the abortion giant.<\/p>\n<p>But during Saturday&#8217;s debate, Christie inexplicably called one form of abortion &#8220;self-defense.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Christie <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianpost.com\/news\/abortion-rape-conceived-sweet-spot-act-of-self-defense-jeb-bush-chris-christie-gop-debate-156958\/\">attempted to explain<\/a> his reason for supporting abortion in cases of rape and incest:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<div class=\"copy-paste-block\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I believe that if a woman has been raped, that is a pregnancy that she should be able to terminate. If she is a victim of incest, this is not a woman&#8217;s choice, this is a woman being violated. The fact is that we have always believed, as has Ronald Reagan, that we have self defense for women who have been raped and impregnated because of it or been victims of incest and been impregnated for it. I believe that they do not have to deliver that child if they believe that is an act of self defense by terminating that pregnancy.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>As a former prosecutor, Christie should be well-educated on the boundaries of self-defense, so this explanation is particularly puzzling coming from his mouth. Self-defense is used <em>against a perpetrator<\/em>, not against another innocent human being.<\/p>\n<p>The backlash against Christie came hard and fast, as viewers were outraged by his suggestion that babies themselves are their mothers&#8217; attackers.<\/p>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">I am still wincing over Christie&#39;s brutal description of when it&#39;s ok to kill your baby. Horrid. Horrid.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Amanda Carpenter (@amandacarpenter) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/amandacarpenter\/status\/696175018804387840\">February 7, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">A woman has a right to self-defense against her rapist. We should kill or castrate rapists. Killing babies is wrong. End of story.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/benshapiro\/status\/696174767792005122\">February 7, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">All human life is sacred &#8211; unless your life is the result of a tragic act of violence, and then you can be killed.- Bush &amp; Christie<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Trevin Wax (@TrevinWax) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TrevinWax\/status\/696174622425878528\">February 7, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">The &quot;abortion as self-defense line&quot; is quite possibly the most morally reprehensible thing I&#39;ve heard uttered in any debate on either side<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MattWalshBlog\/status\/696174748644970497\">February 7, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Apparently, Christie, the former prosecutor, doesn&#39;t know we don&#39;t execute children for the crimes of their fathers.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Steve Deace (@SteveDeaceShow) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SteveDeaceShow\/status\/696175956210257920\">February 7, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">5\/ By championing the killing of babies as &quot;self defense&quot; because of crimes of rapist father, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ChrisChristie\">@ChrisChristie<\/a> abandoned prolife principle<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Matt Bowman (@mattbowman2000) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mattbowman2000\/status\/696175941421305856\">February 7, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">When Christie equates abortion with self-defense he suggests that the infant child is somehow the aggressor and predator in the situation<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MattWalshBlog\/status\/696175141911310336\">February 7, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">&quot;An act of self-defense in terminating that pregnancy.&quot; A repugnant statement in every circumstance but when life of the mother is at stake<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; David French (@DavidAFrench) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DavidAFrench\/status\/696174559800782848\">February 7, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Shameful that <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ChrisChristie\">@ChrisChristie<\/a> would call the abortion of an innocent child &quot;self-defense.&quot; The child is blameless. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/GOPDebate?src=hash\">#GOPDebate<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Russell Moore (@drmoore) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/drmoore\/status\/696174552271945729\">February 7, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">There is NO self-defense against a baby. That&#39;s absurd and nasty. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/H8ljTIKIFT\">https:\/\/t.co\/H8ljTIKIFT<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/benshapiro\/status\/696174242778341377\">February 7, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<p>Commenters defended babies who are conceived in rape. They insisted the lives of these children are no less valuable based on the circumstances of their conception &#8211; something entirely beyond their control.<\/p>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/GovChristie\">@GovChristie<\/a> what self-defense does an unborn baby conceived in rape or incest have? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/GOPDebate?src=hash\">#GOPDebate<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/NotProLife?src=hash\">#NotProLife<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/RebeccaKiesslin\">@RebeccaKiesslin<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; DavidJeffersGroup (@FLADaveJ) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/FLADaveJ\/status\/696175188602392576\">February 7, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">I know someone who was conceived via rape. Her life is no less valuable than mine. <\/p>\n<p>That was a disgusting answer from Christie.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Ellen L. Carmichael (@ellencarmichael) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ellencarmichael\/status\/696174624019582977\">February 7, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Babies are babies. Period. Don&#39;t pile a murder on top of a traumatic experience. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/GOPDebate?src=hash\">#GOPDebate<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Ashley Ciandella (@AshleyCiandella) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AshleyCiandella\/status\/696174371749150722\">February 7, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JebBush\">@JebBush<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ChrisChristie\">@ChrisChristie<\/a> Meet <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/RebeccaKiesslin\">@RebeccaKiesslin<\/a> she is brilliant, beautiful, &amp; conceived in rape. Talk to her, she will save u from ur selves<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; jon graves (@jongraves2120) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jongraves2120\/status\/696177689258905602\">February 7, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">That was a horrible, horrible answer from Christie.<\/p>\n<p>The child conceived by rape has just as much right to life as any other.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Ellen L. Carmichael (@ellencarmichael) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ellencarmichael\/status\/696174356829876225\">February 7, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.savethe1.com\/\">Save the 1<\/a> is an organization dedicated to telling the stories of women who choose <a href=\"\/news\/pro-lifers-respond-to-attacks-on-pro-life-stance-cruz-rubio\/\">life for their children after rape<\/a> and the stories of children who were conceived during rape. A 2 1\/2 minute video about these wonderful people is available <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Savethe1\/videos\/vl.425855660950226\/862625097190285\/?type=1&amp;theater\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.savethe1.com\/\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/news\/christie-sees-immediate-backlash-comments-abortion-rape-gop-debate\/conceived_rape2_350_359_55\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-87146\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-87146\" src=\"https:\/\/www.liveactionnews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/conceived_rape2_350_359_55.jpg\" alt=\"conceived, rape, babies, ultrasound, human beings\" width=\"350\" height=\"359\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/conceived_rape2_350_359_55.jpg 350w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/conceived_rape2_350_359_55-292x300.jpg 292w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>During Saturday night&#8217;s GOP debate, one question focused on the issue of abortion, as moderator Mary Katherine Ham acknowledged that most Millennials support restrictions on abortion. 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