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One of the most frustrating things about dialogue between pro-lifers and pro-choicers is that only one side truly understands where the other is coming from. We can fully understand that support for abortion (among the non-extremists, at least) is rooted in a reluctance to not force women to undergo something perceived to be needless (because they erroneously believe the fetus isn\u2019t alive), but pro-choicers rarely acknowledge compassion for preborn children as our driving force, instead constantly insisting we simply hate women.<\/p>\n

At Refinery29, Kelsey Miller has what seems to be a rare pro-choice effort to actually understand pro-lifers, in the form of an extended ride-along and discussion<\/a> with Students for Life coordinator Emily Wilkinson.<\/p>\n

It contains a number of revelations that the truth is more complicated than pro-aborts would like, which will hopefully push some of the site\u2019s more moderate readers to reassess their own assumptions\u2014for instance, she acknowledges the problems<\/a> with Planned Parenthood\u2019s \u201cabortions are only 3% of what we do\u201d lie and the counter-argument<\/a> to the belief that more contraception would reduce abortion rates, and admits that we don\u2019t call abortion murder \u201cfor dramatic effect; that\u2019s simply what they see.\u201d<\/p>\n

But Miller also unintentionally illustrates several ways that even more reasonable pro-choicers are avoiding the fundamental questions about their position.<\/p>\n

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Many people, particularly within the generation born after Roe v. Wade, still associate the anti-abortion movement with screeching protesters, the murders of doctors who performed procedures, and, more recently, the firebombing of clinics in Washington state and California. Certainly, that’s how I saw it, until I met Wilkinson.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

This is more telling than Miller lets on. To the extent that any meaningful slice of the mainstream primarily associates pro-lifers with the tiny, isolated fringe of violent actors<\/a>, it\u2019s not because our movement is violent; it\u2019s because pro-aborts are constantly (and hypocritically<\/a>) defaming us as such. To admit you associate a viewpoint held by at least half the country<\/a> with such evil is to admit your view of the subject has been shaped almost entirely by extremists. People who haven\u2019t been sheltered from intellectual diversity aren\u2019t surprised that people who disagree aren\u2019t cartoon characters upon meeting one.<\/p>\n

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“I think that it’s just that the truth is coming out. So many people have experienced it and been hurt by it that they want to do something about it.”<\/p>\n

The research might counter her on that point, but I’m not here to debate but rather to listen and learn (and bite my tongue, if only for a day).<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

The research actually doesn\u2019t<\/em> counter Wilkinson’s claim. In July, for instance, Live Action examined<\/a> the much-trumpeted Turnaway study claiming 95% of women who had abortions were happy about it and found not only severe author bias and methodological flaws, but a broader range of research documenting a great many forms of psychological suffering linked to abortion.<\/p>\n

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But there is no talk of shame or murder in this room [on campus at Cal State, Northridge], no condemnation. Instead, Wilkinson urges the need to create a supportive environment for the student who finds herself pregnant [\u2026] This, I realize, is the secret weapon of the anti-abortion movement that doesn’t end up in the news: empathy.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

How is this a secret? Certainly not because pro-lifers tried to keep it one; we\u2019re constantly talking about and providing support for pregnant women\u2014so much so, ironically, that pro-aborts attack us for it<\/a>. By agreeing that our work \u201cdoesn\u2019t end up in the news,\u201d Miller has essentially provided a pro-choice confirmation that the news is biased against us. Thanks!<\/p>\n

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“Some state legislator got up and spoke, and my mom told me to cover my ears,” [Wilkinson]<\/em> says [recounting attending a pro-life rally as a child]<\/em>. “Of course, I didn’t cover my ears. And he described a partial-birth abortion. [Ed. note: This procedure is known in the medical community as an intact dilatation and extraction and is recommended in rare circumstances.] [Ed. note in the original]<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Miller is veering close to the complaint that \u201cpartial-birth abortion\u201d is somehow a medically inaccurate term, which is nonsense because as the National Abortion Federation\u2019s own description makes clear<\/a>, it entails partially<\/em> delivering\u2014birthing<\/em>\u2014a baby. (It’s also illegal<\/a> except for cases where it’s allegedly necessary to save the mother’s life; on that point, see below.)<\/p>\n

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In July, an anti-abortion group released a series of hidden-camera videos that purported to show Planned Parenthood employees making arrangements to illegally sell aborted fetal tissue to medical labs. The videos were widely criticized for having been deceptively edited, but Planned Parenthood critics in Congress jumped on them as ammo to withdraw the group’s federal funding.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

For what should but insufferably won\u2019t be the last time: no, the videos weren’t deceptively edited<\/a>. Also note that, per the established custom, no actual deceptive edits are specified.<\/p>\n

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Personhood \u2014 the moment at which a human becomes a human (with human rights) \u2014 is the lens through which you have to look to understand anything and everything about the anti-abortion movement [\u2026] Of course, there’s no unified consensus on personhood \u2014 and that’s what makes it such a powerful tool for the anti-abortion movement. During campus campaigns, Students for Life groups often put up posters with photographs of human development from conception to adulthood that ask: “When Should Human Rights Begin?” They ask people walking by to put Post-Its on whichever stage they choose. It’s a powerful question, instantly forcing passersby to challenge their own beliefs. The personhood question has no easy answer \u2014 and that’s why Wilkinson asks it.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Miller comes so close to facing the ultimate abortion question\u2026 yet injects juuuuust<\/em> enough ambiguity to dodge answering it. Pro-lifers don\u2019t push personhood because<\/em> it\u2019s unanswerable; that would be foolishly self-defeating. What we contend, and what Miller doesn\u2019t discuss, is that everyone\u2019s status as a live human from conception on is<\/em> easily, clearly, and incontrovertibly answered because science has conclusively settled the question for us<\/a>. You can only pretend otherwise by asserting that \u201cpersonhood\u201d is somehow a separate concept from humanity\u2014which pro-lifers don’t<\/a>, Kelsey.<\/p>\n

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“There’s never a medical condition that a woman would be in where, in order make her better, you need to give her an abortion. That just doesn’t exist.” From a practical perspective, this is patently untrue, given that pregnancy itself is not without risk even to healthy women, and certainly to those with preexisting conditions. In 2012, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists responded to this common anti-abortion argument, stating that “abortions are necessary in a number of circumstances to save the life of a woman or to preserve her health.”<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Unfortunately, the ACOG is not an impartial, credible authority on the subject. Back when the body was formulating its position on partial-birth abortion in the 1990s, the task force assigned to the question originally<\/a> \u201ccould identify no circumstances under which this procedure . . . would be the only option to save the life or preserve the health of the woman.\u201d It was not medical professionals but future Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan, then a Clinton Administration official, who drafted a statement that it \u201cmay be the best or most appropriate procedure in a particular circumstance to save the life or preserve the health of a woman,\u201d which was added into the final ACOG statement.<\/p>\n

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Because of her work, [Wilkinson] is familiar with rape in ways that many of us are not. She’s watched friends go through with pregnancies after sexual assault, and she has peers who were themselves conceived in rape. It’s worth noting this context, for her ultimate answer is not a casual brush-off but the one she truly believes is the most sympathetic.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Credit where credit is due: this is a far more honest, fair, and empathetic treatment of pro-lifers and rape than we’re used to<\/a>.<\/p>\n

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If I could muster up the radical compassion with which Wilkinson approaches her own opponents, I’d say she’s fighting for the utopia I’d imagined earlier that day, where no pregnancy is unwanted or unsafe. But, no matter what she’s fighting for, she’s leaving raped and pregnant children among the casualties. In that moment, I felt my own assuredness return more firmly than before.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

And in this moment, readers feel their hope that the author was on the verge of a turning point sour. Wilkinson is fully upfront about the cost of being pro-life even in the hard cases. She doesn\u2019t hide from the fact being raped and pregnant as a result or enduring pregnancy as a child are hardships, but holds firm in her contention that abortion is ultimately the greater harm.<\/p>\n

Compare that with Miller\u2019s approach\u2014acknowledging personhood as an abstract argument<\/em>, but keeping it at arms\u2019 length. She refuses to admit that her position has casualties too\u2014or that in abortion\u2019s case, \u201ccasualty\u201d is literal\u2014and therefore cannot put forth her own case for why mother should outweigh child.<\/p>\n

That is why one of her closing statements\u2014\u201cConversations like this are what turn belief into conviction, forcing you to look at what you hold to be true, and why\u201d\u2014is even more true than she knows. Miller\u2019s convictions may feel firm now, but she still has yet to fully face her own assumed truth. Hopefully she will as these conversations continue.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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