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If you thought Amanda Marcotte the biologist<\/a> was bad, just wait ’til you meet Amanda Marcotte the constitutional scholar. At RH Reality Check, she rails against<\/a> conservatives for “reinterpreting, denouncing, or flat-out lying about the 14th Amendment these days” in order to perpetuate one of our “favorite myths”\u2014that “women are not to be trusted to handle their own reproduction.”<\/p>\n

After a legally<\/a> and historically<\/a> wrong<\/a> discussion of the controversy over whether the 14th<\/sup> Amendment grants citizenship to children of illegal immigrants born on US soil (what is it with these self-described “reproductive health” outfits promoting left-wing narratives on unrelated issues<\/a>?), Marcotte transitions to a screed about the Amendment’s abortion implications that would border on constitutionally illiterate if she hadn’t given us so many reasons to believe<\/a> the obtuseness is premeditated…<\/p>\n

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Mike Huckabee has taken to running around claiming that\u00a0the 14th\u00a0Amendment should be interpreted<\/a>\u00a0as a ban on abortion, even though the Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld abortion as a legal right.\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Something tells me Amanda wouldn’t be so quick to accept “SCOTUS said so!” as settling constitutionality questions in Gonzales v. Carhart<\/a><\/em>, Burwell v. Hobby Lobby<\/a><\/em>, or Citizens United<\/a><\/em>. Something also tells me we shouldn’t expect her to grapple with the number of people on her own side<\/a> who admit Roe v. Wade<\/em> is a sham.<\/p>\n

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Let\u2019s set aside for now the fact that Huckabee is claiming that the president should basically become a dictator who ignores rule of law.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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Listen, I had problems<\/a> with Huckabee’s National Guard talk too, but let’s not pretend that floating a dubious (and probably unserious) means of enforcing something the Constitution actually says<\/em> is somehow less democratic than the Supreme Court dictating something it does not<\/a>.<\/p>\n

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Many actual legal scholars, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg especially, say the opposite:\u00a0That the Supreme Court should have invoked the 14th\u00a0<\/sup>Amendment to protect abortion rights<\/a>\u00a0in 1973, on the grounds that women are citizens and, as citizens, should have equal rights to bodily autonomy as men.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Pure nonsense. There is no basis for such an interpretation in the Constitution’s text, and no legal or historical evidence that anyone who inspired, authored, or ratified the Constitution up to the 14th<\/sup> Amendment believed in it. As Justice William Rehnquist explained in his Planned Parenthood v. Casey <\/em>dissent<\/a>, the “common law which we inherited from England made abortion after ‘quickening’ an offense,” and “[a]t the time of the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, statutory prohibitions or restrictions on abortion were commonplace.” And the quickening factor was a question of our scientific knowledge’s limitations and their impact on evidentiary standards, not any sort of postmodern, pseudo-feminist bodily-autonomy affirmation.<\/p>\n

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Huckabee, clearly thinking he\u2019s got a real \u201cgotcha\u201d here, is arguing the opposite: that embryos\u00a0are actually citizens. By necessity, though he doesn\u2019t explain this outright, his argument would go on to hold\u00a0that women therefore cannot be citizens.\u00a0As Amanda Taub of Vox points out<\/a>, not being forced to give up part of your body to another person is a basic human right, even if they need it to live. So it\u2019s not enough to declare embryos are people in order to compel women to give up our bodies to nourish them. We must also and by necessity declare women to be non-persons in order to get there. Huckabee doesn\u2019t say that part, but his argument doesn\u2019t work without it.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Sheer lunacy. Citizenship does entail a right against involuntary servitude, but contrary to pseudo-feminist dogma, pregnancy doesn’t fit that description. In 99% of cases, the mother voluntarily assumed the risk of creating a child for whom she would be responsible. According to the Constitution’s Lockean natural-law underpinnings<\/a>, fetuses have a natural right to be gestated until birth. And even if we conceded the fetus was infringing on Mom’s rights, the force with which we defend ourselves must be proportionate\u2014if I own a boat and a six-year-old sneaks aboard before I take it out, I don’t have the right to throw him overboard in the middle of a lake. Ultimately, equal protection requires the sexes to be treated equally in like situations; it doesn’t require us to abandon reason and justice in order to compensate when biology subjects the sexes to inherently dissimilar situations.<\/p>\n

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Of course, even to get there, you have to ignore a word that, as it happens, is the same word that anti-immigrant conservatives ignore with their novel interpretations of the 14th Amendment:\u00a0born. It\u2019s right there in the first sentence of the 14th Amendment: \u201cAll persons born\u00a0<\/strong>or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.\u201d (Emphasis added.) Born, as in when you came out of your mother\u2019s body. Not when your mother\u2019s DNA merged with your father\u2019s nine-and-a-half months before.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Oh, what I would give to see Amanda Marcotte actually have to back up this mess of falsehood and oversimplification in a debate with someone knowledgeable on the subject! (Sadly, that probably won’t be me anytime soon, considering that she blocked me on Twitter years ago because debate is scary when the opponent knows you’re lying.)<\/p>\n

The 14th Amendment<\/a> first says, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.” Fair enough, that means fetuses aren’t entitled to the “privileges or immunities of citizens,” such as the right to vote. However<\/em>, it then says “nor [setting up a separate and distinct clause] shall any state deprive any person<\/em> of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person<\/em> within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws” (emphasis added). Why is no mystery\u2014citizenship comes with all sorts of unique benefits that make it precious, but it\u00a0obviously\u00a0shouldn’t mean that non-citizens can\u00a0be subjected to whatever somebody wants to do to them.<\/p>\n

The 14th Amendment\u2019s primary drafter, Rep. John Bingham, expressly stated<\/a>\u00a0this language was mean to apply to \u201cany human being” (and sorry, Amanda, but science says that includes the preborn<\/a>). James Wilson and William Blackstone, the preeminent legal minds influencing the Founding Fathers’ philosophy, taught that<\/a>\u00a0the right to life begins well before birth.<\/p>\n

With that, we close the way Amanda Marcotte diatribes always close: demagogic armchair psychoanalysis of her opponents, despite utterly failing to refute our case on the merits:<\/p>\n

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All these attacks on the 14th\u00a0Amendment are ultimately about undermining the importance of birth, an act for which\u00a0you need a uterus. No surprise that the supporters of male dominance want to shift focus away from \u201cgiving birth\u201d to something else, something cisgender men can do\u2014ejaculate, write something on a piece of paper\u2014as the real moment when someone becomes a citizen. But our laws should be built around what works best for our country and the people in it, all the people in it, and not just the hurt feelings of a bunch of male egotists.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

She gets wrong every single objective question at hand\u2014constitutional text, legal history, authorial intent, ratifiers’ understanding, natural rights theory, human biology\u2014yet hubris empowers her to overlook all that and pretend pro-lifers are the ones animated by gender-obsessed ego. What pro-abortion radicals lack in self-awareness they more than make up for in projection.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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