{"id":72238,"date":"2015-08-26T05:30:02","date_gmt":"2015-08-26T09:30:02","guid":{"rendered":"\/news\/?p=72238"},"modified":"2015-08-26T01:29:53","modified_gmt":"2015-08-26T05:29:53","slug":"stemexpress-ceo-cate-dyer-lying","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/stemexpress-ceo-cate-dyer-lying\/","title":{"rendered":"StemExpress CEO Cate Dyer is lying, but why?"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Normally we would be asking, in the words of Hillary Clinton, “what difference does it make” whether StemExpress gets its severed baby heads from intact or disassembled bodies.<\/p>\n

But it matters to StemExpress CEO Cate Dyer\u00a0for some reason.\"2015-08-25_1657\"<\/p>\n

Today, Dyer is denying she meant “intact fetus” when using the term “intact case” after being\u00a0caught on video<\/a> in a restaurant meeting with undercover investigators posing as fetal tissue buyers…<\/p>\n

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Dyer:<\/strong> Realistically, if we were to do an agreement with you, what do we think you could get?
\nBuyer:<\/strong> Volume-wise?
\nDyer:<\/strong> On specifically liver tissue, because that\u2019s such an area of demand for us.
\nBuyer:<\/strong> So liver, and what about intact specimens, just\u2014?
\nDyer:<\/strong> Oh, yeah, I mean if you had intact cases<\/span>, which we\u2019ve done a lot, we sometimes ship those back to our lab in its entirety<\/span>.
\nBuyer:<\/strong> Okay.
\nDyer:<\/strong> So that would also be great if you guys have those.
\nBuyer:<\/strong> The entire case.
\nDyer:<\/strong> Yeah, yeah. Because it\u2019s just, and the procurement for us, I mean it can go really sideways, depending on the facility, and then our samples are destroyed, and we\u2019re like, \u201cReally?\u201d This was all so much work, and then just to have them be destroyed is awful. I mean we have researchers wait forever, and they want certain things, you know, perfectly done, so we started bringing them back even to manage it from a procurement expert standpoint<\/span>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Dyer said today she clearly meant “intact livers,” as if it would be unusual to find a tiny whole fetal liver but more typical to find tiny\u00a0liver parts in a petri dish, and know they were tiny liver parts, and put all the tiny pieces in a ziplock and ship them.<\/p>\n

The conversation would make much more sense were\u00a0Dyer\u00a0to have meant “intact fetus,” as in organs and tissue are easily destroyed, but if the entire fetal cadaver is shipped to StemExpress, their “expert” can dissect what is needed so the procurement doesn’t “go really sideways.”<\/p>\n

Nevertheless,\u00a0Dyer insisted today<\/a>, “My use of the term \u2018intact cases\u2019 is a medical term of art that refers solely to \u2018intact livers’…”<\/p>\n

However,\u00a0StemExpress’s Procurement Instructions indicate “case” indeed means “body,” as posted by CMP<\/a>:<\/p>\n

\"2015-08-25_1806\"<\/p>\n

Still,\u00a0Dyer insists “StemExpress has never requested, received or provided to a researcher an ‘intact fetus.'”<\/p>\n

Dyer’s contorted denial holds even less merit\u00a0when considering StemExpress has indeed been on the hunt for intact embryos, as this StemExpress procurement email, which CMP also has posted on its website<\/a>, indicates:<\/p>\n

\"2015-08-24_1923\"<\/p>\n

“RPMI” refers to\u00a0the medium in which to place the “7wks\/Whole Embryo” for shipment.<\/p>\n

In scientific terminology, an “embryo” becomes a “fetus” at eight weeks. So this aborted baby was one week shy of being considered a fetus.<\/p>\n

Perhaps it’s true that StemExpress draws\u00a0the line at eight weeks. No whole babies after eight weeks, only pieces. Only organs.<\/p>\n

But given\u00a0StemExpress’s own documentation, this\u00a0sounds implausible.<\/p>\n

Why even care? Why even go into over-denial drive?<\/p>\n

If Dyer were concerned about optics, I don’t think the optics could get much worse than when she joked about shipping severed fetal heads, as she did in another part of the conversation:<\/p>\n

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Dyer:<\/strong> As you probably know, one of the issues with neural tissue, it\u2019s so fragile. It\u2019s insanely fragile. And I don\u2019t even know\u2014I was gonna say, I know we get requests for neural, it\u2019s the hardest thing in the world to ship.
\nBuyer:<\/strong> You do it as the whole calvarium [head].
\nDyer:<\/strong> Yeah, that\u2019s the easiest way. And we\u2019ve actually had good success with that.
\nBuyer:<\/strong> Make sure the eyes are closed!
\nDyer:<\/strong> Yeah! [laughter] Tell the lab it\u2019s coming!
\nBuyer:<\/strong> Yeah.
\nDyer:<\/strong> They\u2019ll open the box, go, \u201dOh God!\u201d [laughter]<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Optics can’t get much worse than that.<\/p>\n

What is more likely is Dyer knows congressional investigations are going to, in part, center on whether Planned Parenthood\u00a0and other abortion clinics aborted babies alive to get StemExpress the “cases” it wanted.<\/p>\n

And it would have been per StemExpress’s own instructions. From the same procurement email as above:<\/p>\n

\"2015-08-25_1838\"<\/p>\n

“[W]ithout digoxin applied” means this 18-20-week-old baby wasn’t to be killed before s\/he was aborted. “Same Day… Personal pick-up on site near clinic” means they obviously wanted to get this baby’s organs to the researcher\u00a0quickly, “to reduce ishemia time,” meaning before the blood supply left the organs (“ishemia” being a misspelling of the word “ischemia<\/a>“).<\/p>\n

In other words, StemExpress needed a organs from a very freshly killed\u00a0baby.<\/p>\n

Or perhaps\u00a0not yet killed when the organs were harvested, as former StemExpress technician Holly O’Donnell witnessed<\/a> at Planned Parenthood Mar Monte?<\/p>\n

And that’s<\/em> what Cate Dyer is worried someone will want to talk about.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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