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Marco Rubio<\/p><\/div>\n

Pro-aborts really don\u2019t like to be reminded that their claim to have science on their side is a massive lie. So it\u2019s to be expected that Marco Rubio’s efforts<\/a> to rectify Chris Cuomo\u2019s utter illiteracy on basic human biology<\/a> would draw a bunch of deniers out of the woodwork, such as leading know-nothing Amanda Marcotte.<\/p>\n

Utterly unfazed by past embarrassments over not understanding what sperm cells are and aren’t<\/a> or the very concept of an organism<\/a>, Marcotte took to Slate to ignorantly sneer<\/a> that Rubio\u2019s \u201clatest dork-out\u201d is \u201cpretty hard to take\u201d:<\/p>\n

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When\u00a0Rubio appeared on CNN<\/a>\u00a0after Thursday night’s Republican debate, he kept insisting that this vague entity called \u201cscience\u201d has\u00a0declared that human life begins at conception<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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Normally I\u2019d dismiss the scare quotes and \u201cvague entity\u201d talk as sarcastic insinuations that what pro-lifers believe isn\u2019t actually science, but Marcotte\u2019s been so proudly, astoundingly unscientific about all this for so long that I think we have to wonder if she literally does not grasp the concept of science. Maybe she really doesn\u2019t consider it the empirical acquisition of objective facts about the material world. Maybe she doesn\u2019t accept the premise that there are objective facts that exist outside of her prejudices. How else do we explain the following?<\/p>\n

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Actual biologists<\/a>, for what it’s worth, argue that life is continuous and that a fertilized egg is no more or less alive than a sperm or an unfertilized egg.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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PZ Myers (via wordbasket.blogspot.com)<\/p><\/div>\n

Marcotte\u2019s link does not go to \u201cactual biologists,\u201d i.e., an overview of the professional assessments of multiple biologists or biological papers or books, but the rantings of one<\/em> man who happens to be a biologist: PZ Myers (pictured right; a fanatical atheist considered<\/a> to be a<\/a> liar<\/a> by<\/a> many<\/a> of his<\/a> fellow<\/a> atheists<\/a>). It took me about five seconds to find this list<\/a> of \u201cactual biologists\u201d (and scientists in other fields) who reject Darwinian evolution. Marcotte would (rightly) deem that insufficient to conclude that Darwin was wrong\u2014even though it\u2019s the exact same \u201cscientists say so!\u201d logic<\/em> she just used here.<\/p>\n

If Marcotte had ever spent a day in her life searching for politically neutral information on the subject, she would read Meyers’s post\u00a0and wonder why it didn\u2019t match what biology textbooks say<\/a>. She\u2019d also instantly recognize the numerous dodges he\u00a0uses to misrepresent the science.<\/p>\n

Meyers\u00a0prattles on about how life can\u2019t begin at conception because it really<\/em> began four billion years ago and how zygotes may be human but so are hair cells, but both talking points are non-sequiturs that deliberately ignore that we\u2019re talking not about some broad sense of when all life began, but about when the life of a particular<\/em> human organism<\/em> begins. Individual human cells are parts<\/em> of those organisms, not the organisms themselves. If he and Marcotte need it dumbed down even more: alive + human + organism = human being<\/em>.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Clearly, PZ Myers being \u201ca biologist\u201d doesn\u2019t automatically mean he\u2019s a good<\/em> biologist. (For more on just how badly Myers mangles the subject, read Clinton Wilcox<\/a>.) Marcotte continues:<\/p>\n

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Rubio, grinning with pleasure at the sick burn he’s about to administer, replied, “Well, if they can\u2019t say it will be human life, what does it become, then? Could it become a cat?\u201d<\/p>\n

Rubio is so in love with his joke that his campaign is making a thing of it: creating a petition\u2014decorated with a cute picture of a cat\u2014declaring that a fertilized egg has the potential to develop into a person and not a cat. Which no one disputes.<\/p>\n

Now, I am the proud owner of two cats. Despite what Marco Rubio may think, I am aware I got them from the pound, not from my uterus.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Well, Amanda, considering how little is your awareness of the subject, you can\u2019t really blame us for wondering.<\/p>\n

Because Marcotte has nothing thoughtful to offer the discussion on her end, she projects that all parties are as shallow. Personally, I\u2019m not a fan of the \u201cdo you think it\u2019ll turn into a ____?\u201d argument because it leads to sideshows like this and because the more salient point is that the embryo already is<\/a> a living human being, not that it\u2019s on the road to becoming one.<\/p>\n

But it\u2019s obvious Rubio doesn\u2019t really believe that people think zygotes develop into something else. The absurdity of the question is his point, to highlight that pro-choicers already instinctively know more about what they\u2019re destroying than they let on. Marcotte again, with her usual crassness:<\/p>\n

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Human sperm cells, much like fertilized eggs, have human DNA. If a sperm cell is allowed to complete its development process instead of dying sadly with a million of his brothers inside a dirty gym sock, it will also, coupled with an egg, develop into a human being.<\/p>\n

Clearly, the only solution is to ban masturbation. Because it’s not feline DNA you’re killing off, guys. They may be microscopic, but your fellas are trying to turn into people, not cats. Because science.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

And so we end on the classic Marcotte maneuver of papering over utter nonsense with smug sarcasm, which works because neither she nor her readership actually cares whether they are<\/em> right, but merely desire the illusion of intellectual superiority that comes with pretending<\/em> they are.<\/p>\n

For what feels like the millionth time: \u201chaving human DNA\u201d makes something human (adjective), but it does not make it a<\/u> human (noun). Embryos are humans (noun) because they are organisms<\/a>\u2014\u201cindividual[s] constituted to carry on the activities of life by means of organs separate in function but mutually dependent\u201d\u2014whose DNA classifies them as members of our species. (If you\u2019re still struggling with that, Amanda, please brush up on necessary vs. sufficient conditions<\/a>.)<\/p>\n

So just in case, let\u2019s repeat that one more time, with feeling: alive + human + organism = human being<\/strong>. You need all three values to get the sum. Oh, and pro-lifers didn\u2019t make up any of these concepts<\/a>. They didn\u2019t come from the Bible. These are the basics of modern biology. They all have very clear, well-settled meanings and criteria.<\/p>\n

I first called Marcotte out for this particular lie three years ago<\/a>. Many other pro-lifers have taken pains to explain this to her and other deniers many, many times over the years. Yet still she says it, and still her audience and colleagues are fine with it.<\/p>\n

Say what you want about the pro-life movement, but if I were to say something so scientifically nonsensical\u2014like, say, if I went around claiming that fetuses start doing math in their heads two months into pregnancy\u2014I can\u2019t think of a single pro-life website that would publish it. Because unlike pro-aborts, our side has standards.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Pro-aborts really don\u2019t like to be reminded that their claim to have science on their side is a massive lie. So it\u2019s to be expected that Marco Rubio’s efforts to rectify Chris Cuomo\u2019s utter illiteracy on basic human biology would draw a bunch of deniers out of the woodwork, such as leading know-nothing Amanda Marcotte. […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":54,"featured_media":70527,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false},"categories":[15],"tags":[19,777,2824,70,546,372,4165,1206,4676,337,382,3741],"yoast_head":"\nAmanda Marcotte helpfully reminds us she doesn't get embryology. At all. - Live Action News<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Amanda Marcotte attempts to smear GOP candidate Marco Rubio as an ignorant pro-lifer. 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