{"id":66333,"date":"2015-07-14T07:15:48","date_gmt":"2015-07-14T11:15:48","guid":{"rendered":"\/news\/?p=66333"},"modified":"2015-07-14T23:48:07","modified_gmt":"2015-07-15T03:48:07","slug":"answering-objections-wisconsins-new-abortion-law-get-brony-mailing-list","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/answering-objections-wisconsins-new-abortion-law-get-brony-mailing-list\/","title":{"rendered":"Answering objections to Wisconsin&#8217;s new abortion law (or how to get on a brony mailing list)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><p>There\u00a0are\u00a0perks to being a writer, and they include hearing from people who&#8217;ve felt encouraged by something I\u2019ve said. Of course not everyone\u2019s impressed with my message, and some of them find ways to express that. One of the more creative methods involves copying my <a title=\"Adam Peters\" href=\"\/news\/author\/adam-peters\/\" target=\"_blank\">email address<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_66334\" style=\"width: 477px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-66334\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-66334 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.liveactionnews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/Brony-Newsletter.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"467\" height=\"257\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/Brony-Newsletter.jpg 467w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/Brony-Newsletter-300x165.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 467px) 100vw, 467px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-66334\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">You sure did.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>As a result, I get regular fundraising requests from Planned Parenthood and NARAL Pro-Choice America. I\u2019ve also gotten messages pertaining to gay-themed erotica. At one point, I was receiving offers from a manufacturer of vibrators. While I have yet to place an order, their product does seem to garner largely positive reviews.<\/p>\n<p>Other times people want to show me something they\u2019ve seen online. That\u2019s how I came across this:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-66497\" src=\"https:\/\/www.liveactionnews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/Quote-21.jpg\" alt=\"Quote-2\" width=\"655\" height=\"334\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/Quote-21.jpg 655w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/Quote-21-300x153.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 655px) 100vw, 655px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s in reference to\u00a0Wisconsin\u2019s <a title=\"Wisconsin Senate Passes Pro-Life Bill to Ban Abortions After 20 Weeks\" href=\"http:\/\/www.lifenews.com\/2015\/06\/10\/wisconsin-senate-passes-pro-life-bill-to-ban-abortions-after-20-weeks\/\" target=\"_blank\">Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act<\/a>. Passed by the state legislature this month, it bans most abortions after 20 weeks. Evidence suggests a baby can <a title=\"Small survivors: How the disputed science of fetal pain is reshaping abortion law\" href=\"http:\/\/national.deseretnews.com\/article\/216\/small-survivors-how-the-disputed-science-of-fetal-pain-is-reshaping-abortion-law.html\" target=\"_blank\">feel pain<\/a> by that point, which is kinda disturbing given how an abortion involves ripping her or him apart <a title=\"Abortionist: it\u2019s too hard to dismember a baby after 20 weeks\" href=\"http:\/\/clinicquotes.com\/abortionist-its-too-hard-to-dismember-a-baby-after-20-weeks\/\" target=\"_blank\">one piece at a time<\/a>. \u00a0\u00a0<strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-40399\" src=\"\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/DE.jpg\" alt=\"D&amp;E\" width=\"653\" height=\"475\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/DE.jpg 653w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/DE-300x218.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 653px) 100vw, 653px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>There\u00a0is\u00a0broad support (<a title=\"Guess who likes the GOP\u2019s 20-week abortion ban? Women.\" href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/blogs\/the-fix\/wp\/2013\/08\/02\/guess-who-likes-the-gops-20-week-abortion-ban-women\/\" target=\"_blank\">particularly among women<\/a>) for restricting late-term abortion, and pro-lifers are promoting similar measures across the country. That means we\u2019re probably going see more comments like the one above, so I figured it\u2019d be good to practice answering them. Let\u2019s get started:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">They use codified language to claim they are protecting &#8220;unborn children&#8221; from pain but ignore the psychological and mental pain that the women who are in positions like this have to go through.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The first assertion here is definitely correct: Yes, the bill\u2019s authors have expressed a desire to protect unborn children from pain. That\u2019s probably why they called it the <em>Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>But while the commenter doesn\u2019t address the issue of fetal pain, he does bring up the emotional suffering that women experience during difficult pregnancies. What\u2019s left out is that for many women, abortion only makes that suffering worse. A study published in the British Medical Journal found that post-abortive women face an elevated <a title=\"Suicides after pregnancy in Finland, 1987\u201394\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/313\/7070\/1431\" target=\"_blank\">risk of suicide<\/a>. There\u2019s also no shortage of women who\u2019ve spoken publicly about a <a title=\"Women share their post-abortion pain and regret\" href=\"\/news\/women-share-their-post-abortion-pain-and-tegret\/\" target=\"_blank\">crushing sense<\/a> of loss, sadness and guilt they\u2019ve experienced after aborting.<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><p>The conversation is about the pain of the &#8220;unborn children&#8221; when in reality the main problem is that the state is legislating what a woman can and can&#8217;t do with her body. Most of the people voting are males and have no right to tell a woman what is right or wrong because they just have no clue. It is a slippery slope when you start advocating state sanctioned control over women&#8217;s bodies, it leads to less and less rights for women.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Although both the state house and senate versions of the bill were <a title=\"Wisconsin Pro-Life Bill Would Ban Abortions After 20 Weeks, Gov. Scott Walker Will Sign It\" href=\"http:\/\/www.lifenews.com\/2015\/05\/07\/wisconsin-pro-life-bill-introduced-to-ban-abortions-after-20-weeks-gov-scott-walker-will-sign-it\/\" target=\"_blank\">co-sponsored by women<\/a>, it <em>is<\/em> true that most of those who voted on it were men&#8230; just like with every other piece of legislation. Yet if Wisconsin\u2019s male dominated legislature really has \u201cno right to tell a woman what is right or wrong,\u201d then it\u2019s unclear why that principle only applies to abortion; surely women should be exempt from male-imposed laws in general. For some reason there\u2019s been no rush implement this.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s also true that the bill limits what people \u201ccan and can&#8217;t do\u201d with their bodies. Then again, plenty of other laws already do that. Someone who\u2019s caught behind the wheel after filling her body with vodka is going to have some legal problems.<\/p>\n<p>Impaired driving laws (like the proposed late-term abortion ban) are designed to protect innocent parties from suffering a violent death, which is probably why most people are willing to accept the infringement on bodily autonomy. I would say that\u2019s a reasonable idea, as opposed to the following: &#8220;In addition, the fact that there is no exception for incest or rape means that legislators are okay with rape and incest in our society.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>No, it just means they\u2019re not okay with with killing people for their fathers\u2019 crimes. You can see some of those people <a title=\"Conceivedinrape.com\" href=\"http:\/\/conceivedinrape.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a> if you like.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat will stop men from simply raping women when they want to have a baby?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Well, the threat of going to prison for one. And sometimes this:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"border instance_large_img\" src=\"http:\/\/cdn.meme.am\/instances2\/500x\/699359.jpg\" alt=\"woman gun - &quot;No&quot; means No. So does buckshot. \" width=\"472\" height=\"294\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I admit I haven\u2019t discussed the subject with too many rapists (the number currently stands at zero), but I have a hard time believing many of them commit sexual assault in the hope of delivering a child. In contrast, some of them <em>do<\/em> use abortion to hide their crimes and stay out of jail.<\/p>\n<p>That was <a href=\"http:\/\/archive.lifenews.com\/state3469.html\">Gary Cross&#8217;<\/a> plan: he took his 13-year-old stepdaughter to Planned Parenthood after getting her pregnant. That she was below the age of consent didn\u2019t seem to concern staff\u00a0&#8211;\u00a0they were quite willing to refer her for a late-term abortion. With the evidence gone, Cross went back to raping her when she came home.<\/p>\n<p>He wasn\u2019t unique, as fellow child rapists <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtontimes.com\/news\/2014\/jul\/11\/denver-lawsuit-accuses-abortion-clinic-not-reporti\/?page=all\">Timothy Smith<\/a>,<a href=\"http:\/\/www.lifenews.com\/2007\/05\/10\/state-2279\/\"> John Blanks, Jr.<\/a>, <a title=\"Abortion Clinic Failed to Report Abuse of 13-Year-Old, Man Raped Her \u201cAlmost Every Day\u201d for Years\" href=\"http:\/\/www.lifenews.com\/2014\/10\/30\/abortion-clinic-failed-to-report-abuse-of-13-year-old-man-raped-almost-every-day-for-years\/\" target=\"_blank\">John F. Szorady <\/a>and<a href=\"http:\/\/www.boston.com\/news\/local\/connecticut\/articles\/2007\/08\/02\/charges_added_in_alleged_abduction\/?camp=pm\"> Adam Gault<\/a> also used abortion to stay out of jail and keep abusing their victims. These <a href=\"http:\/\/www.childpredators.com\/cases\/\">50 other<\/a> sexual predators did the same. Far from being an obstacle to these men, abortion helped keep them in business.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s absolutely surreal and just plain f***ed up.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That would sum up America&#8217;s current approach to abortion. You can help change it by urging law makers in other states to follow Wisconsin&#8217;s example. You can also support <a title=\"Care-Net\" href=\"\/news\/gawker-thinks-pro-abortion-sites-censor-pro-lifers\/\" target=\"_blank\">pregnancy care<\/a> centers, places that offers moms alternatives to abortion. Finally, you can sign Live Action&#8217;s <a title=\"Planned Parenthood Exposed\" href=\"http:\/\/plannedparenthoodexposed.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">petition<\/a> demanding that Congress end its <a title=\"Planned Parenthood receives record amount of taxpayer support\" href=\"http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/2013\/01\/08\/planned-parenthood-receives-record-amount-taxpayer-support\/\" target=\"_blank\">half billion<\/a> dollar subsidy to Planned Parenthood, the country&#8217;s largest abortion chain.<\/p>\n<p>Naturally, doing those things means that you may have to answer comments like the one above, but that&#8217;s not necessarily a bad thing. After all, practice makes perfect.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There\u00a0are\u00a0perks to being a writer, and they include hearing from people who&#8217;ve felt encouraged by something I\u2019ve said. Of course not everyone\u2019s impressed with my message, and some of them find ways to express that. 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