{"id":58075,"date":"2015-01-08T10:30:52","date_gmt":"2015-01-08T15:30:52","guid":{"rendered":"\/news\/?p=58075"},"modified":"2016-09-06T15:26:51","modified_gmt":"2016-09-06T19:26:51","slug":"pro-choice-author-interviews-abortion-providers-reveals-horror-of-abortion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/pro-choice-author-interviews-abortion-providers-reveals-horror-of-abortion\/","title":{"rendered":"Pro-choice author interviews abortion providers, reveals horror of abortion"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><p>Live Action contributor Lauren Enriquez <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lifenews.com\/2015\/01\/05\/holocaust-survivor-describes-seeing-an-abortion-clinic-a-death-factory-is-the-same-anywhere\/\" target=\"_blank\">wrote an article<\/a> \u00a0a week ago about pro-choice author Magda Denes. Denes, who survived Nazi Germany, held on to a pro-choice viewpoint even when confronted with the horrors of abortion while researching her book, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Necessity-Sorrow-Death-Abortion-Hospital\/dp\/0140046798\/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1420642691&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=magda+denes\" target=\"_blank\"><em>In Necessity and Sorrow: Life and Death in an Abortion Hospital<\/em>. <\/a>Her book, though written many years ago, reveals some basic truths about abortion. Here are some quotes from the book that illustrate key points.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Abortion takes lives<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Denes quotes three different abortion doctors.<\/p>\n<p>One says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When you do a D &amp; C most of the tissue is removed by the Olden forceps or ring clamp and you actually get gross parts of the fetus out. So you can see a miniature person so to speak, and even now I occasionally feel a little peculiar about it because as a physician I\u2019m trained to conserve life and here I am destroying life.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Another says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In the beginning I was mixed up because I was taught by the Hippocratic Oath not to take a life.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And a third:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It [abortion] goes against all things which are natural. It\u2019s a termination of a life, however you look at it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-57566\" src=\"https:\/\/www.liveactionnews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/abortion-tools-300x152.jpg\" alt=\"abortion-tools\" width=\"300\" height=\"152\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/abortion-tools-300x152.jpg 300w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/abortion-tools.jpg 671w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cBabies\u201d are killed<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A clinic worker says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A lot of people say they\u2019re killing their baby. You get a lot of that. Some people afterwards get very upset and say \u2018I killed my baby.\u2019 Or even before, they say \u2018My circumstances are such that I can\u2019t keep it, but I\u2019m killing my baby.\u2019 They wouldn&#8217;t rather have the baby, and give it up for adoption either. If you go into that with them they will say that they could never do that\u2026and yet they still consider it killing the baby\u2026well, they are killing a baby. I mean, they are killing something that would develop into maturity\u2026<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Doctors know it\u2019s murder<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Denes was interviewed in a newspaper about her book and said:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There wasn&#8217;t a doctor, who at one time or another in the questioning did not say, &#8220;This is murder.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>(Daily News [Chicago] October 22, 1976, Quoted in <em>Abortion: The Silent Holocaust<\/em> by John Powell, S.J. p 67)<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-15869\" src=\"https:\/\/www.liveactionnews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/pro-abortion1-243x300.jpg\" alt=\"pro-abortion1\" width=\"243\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/pro-abortion1-243x300.jpg 243w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/pro-abortion1.jpg 325w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 243px) 100vw, 243px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Abortion is profitable<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>So Denes, although she is pro-choice, has documented how abortion providers in one busy abortion clinic all acknowledge that they are in the business of taking lives. Why do they do it? One doctor gives a reason:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It\u2019s not a purely altruistic \u2026. The money that\u2019s involved is also a big factor in why to do this. And I think that most doctors who do abortions also do them for the money\u2019s sake. It\u2019s a big motive, and certainly it\u2019s nothing to be hypocritical about<em>.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Another doctor says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I practice medicine not to make a living and yet I like to make money at it. We made a lot of money in abortions. &#8230; For the first two or three months I didn&#8217;t do any of the abortions\u2026 Then I suddenly realized I had all the headaches because whenever they ran into trouble I got involved. I took over gradually and work two days a week and I found that I work very hard, but it made an awful lot of money.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>And some abortionists think\u00a0women aren&#8217;t deserving of respect<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>One doctor says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The patients are subservient to us, and when they rebel it\u2019s very simple: Go to somebody else\u2026.What better relationship can a man have with a woman? Besides, if you finger f*ck thirty women a day with your fingers, and in a way you do, this is a form of sexual violation.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Clinic workers sometimes critici<\/strong><strong>ze the doctors:<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I really feel that about several of the doctors. That there\u2019s really pathological things and their involvement with abortion. Like Dr. Roderigo. [pseudonym] He is very sarcastic and he really, you know, like goes after people. Recently he had a horrendous fight with Rachel [another clinic worker]. It was absolutely, totally disgraceful. It happened right in the nurse\u2019s station. He flew at her. Cursing, screaming out loud, yelling, you could hear it all over the whole floor. It was incredible, I mean, imagine the kind of feeling that gives the patients on the floor. He was just out after her and it had to do with her being a woman, in her position, kind of\u2026\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>And reveal a lack of concern about patient care:<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Our surgeons have a technique, even though I shouldn&#8217;t really say this, where they don\u2019t really scrub between cases. They\u2019ll scrub once and they\u2019ll do a case and they\u2019ll go next door to the next room and put on a new gown and gloves. Without scrubbing between.<em>\u00a0\u00a0<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Clinic workers silence their consciences<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Clinic workers describe how they have hardened themselves to the death of the babies:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I\u2019m not one to see blood and mess and things like that. But I have since gotten so excited about it that I thought about going back to nursing school. When you think about it on a certain level, it\u2019s a really interesting thing that is happening. It\u2019s fascinating, when you can think about it clinically and not get involved in the people, or the babies. What happened when I was first working here was that I just thought about the baby and that was very upsetting. I\u2019m very pro-abortion&#8230; several times I saw a really beautiful things happen, I mean it\u2019s physically beautiful\u2026 Sometimes you can see the vagina opening up in the entire thing coming at once.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Another says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[Abortion] hasn&#8217;t had any effect on me at all. \u2026. I don\u2019t know if it\u2019s because I\u2019m a male, but when I leave here I don\u2019t feel worried, as if I&#8217;ve done something wrong. It\u2019s like any other type of surgery, I just consider it a job. I once did say to myself, \u201cGee, suppose I\u2019d one day have a dream and see thousands of fetuses running after me.\u201d \u2026.I feel funny sometimes taking on a fetus by D&amp;C even, when you can see the heart beating. Even with D&amp;C\u2019s you get these feelings that you are doing something wrong. Especially when you see arms and legs coming out. It comes out in so many pieces. We had nurses that couldn&#8217;t adjust to this type of work. Many of them quit.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-51015\" src=\"https:\/\/www.liveactionnews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/pregnant-ultrasound-fetus-300x199.jpg\" alt=\"pregnant-ultrasound-fetus\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/pregnant-ultrasound-fetus-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/pregnant-ultrasound-fetus-700x466.jpg 700w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/pregnant-ultrasound-fetus.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Denes herself becomes hardened to the babies\u2019 deaths<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>She watches clinic workers\u00a0looking through the remains of an aborted child for a lost ring, barely noticing the horror of\u00a0it.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Sensibility is blunted through exposure. After weeks of trailing Holzman [an abortionist] from \u00a0OR 1 to OR 2, my sense of meaning dulls. I begin to see \u201ccases,\u201d \u201ccervical apertures,\u201d \u201cfetal tissue.\u201d\u2026 One time the circulating nurse loses her wedding ring during surgery. She discovers the loss at the end of the operation as the orderly is about the fold the bloodied sheets on the floor. She takes the filled plastic bag from the wastebasket and empties it into the middle of the sheets. Both kneel and with their bare hands rummage frantically in the pile of placental tissue and blood and\u00a0 body parts. \u201cIt has to be here,\u201d she says nearly in tears. \u201cWe\u2019ll find it,\u201d he reassures her. I am all for them. Is frightful to lose one\u2019s wedding ring.\u2026 Hours later, when the scene reasserts itself in my mind, I do not recognize myself.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>And eventually, Denes and the clinic workers just sit around joking about eating aborted babies.<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230; Several of us sit in the cafeteria around a luncheon table, eating overdone, tasteless stew. \u201cWhat do you think this is made of?\u201d Someone asks. \u201cVenison,\u201d I say. \u201cPigeon,\u201d says Betsy. \u201cDon\u2019t be silly,\u201d says one of the counselors \u201cthere is a hell of a lot cheaper meat to be found around here.\u201d All of us laugh, guffaw, splutter, and slap each other on the arms. It is the funniest thing we have heard in years\u2026 \u201cGet a hold of yourself, ladies,\u201d Rachel says. \u201cThis is unseemly.\u201d She is right, of course, but all of us laugh again. \u201cI think it\u2019s a Greek dish,\u201d says Teresa, laughing so hard that tears begin to roll down her face and we can barely understand her. \u201cIt\u2019s fetustu.\u201d There is no containing any of us now. \u201cThere is mincemeat pie for dessert,\u201d someone shouts. \u201cAnd that isn&#8217;t tomato juice you\u2019re drinking, \u201d adds somebody else. Most of us are doubled over. The air is filled with the shrieks, and gasps, and gurgles. My sides begin to ache.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Denes has written a book that shows the horror of abortion. That it comes from a person who is dedicated to the pro-choice belief system is even more disturbing.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Live Action contributor Lauren Enriquez wrote an article \u00a0a week ago about pro-choice author Magda Denes. Denes, who survived Nazi Germany, held on to a pro-choice viewpoint even when confronted with the horrors of abortion while researching her book, In Necessity and Sorrow: Life and Death in an Abortion Hospital. 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