{"id":4516,"date":"2011-07-14T16:33:22","date_gmt":"2011-07-14T20:33:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/liveaction.org\/blog\/?p=4516"},"modified":"2013-03-30T18:17:56","modified_gmt":"2013-03-30T22:17:56","slug":"why-rush-limbaugh-is-wrong","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/why-rush-limbaugh-is-wrong\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Rush Limbaugh is wrong about abortion &#038; the Casey Anthony case"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><p>In one of his recent broadcasts, Rush Limbaugh, while talking about the tragic Casey Anthony story,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/video\/2011\/07\/06\/rush_if_anthonys_baby_was_killed_in_the_womb_media_wouldnt_care.html\">said this<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/kUG5lFtOjdU\" height=\"390\" width=\"480\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">\u00a0<em>&#8220;You know, what I don&#8217;t understand about it is they&#8217;re [the media] all card-carrying liberals.<br \/>\nWhen does the death of a child bother them? I&#8217;ve never seen them get so upset<br \/>\nover the death of a child. If the child had died, what, two years earlier in the womb<br \/>\nthis woman would be a star. She&#8217;d be a hero. &#8220;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve listened to the audio from that excerpt several times now, and every time I hear it, I\u2019m bothered a little more. Why? Because Rush is assuming something about pro-abortion-choice people that is very rarely true.<\/p>\n<p>OF COURSE abortion advocates are bothered by the murder of two-year-old Caylee Anthony. Everyone is! Here is something pro-life people have common ground with virtually the entire planet on: it\u2019s wrong to murder two-year-old girls.<\/p>\n<p>What most abortion advocates disagree with pro-life people on is whether the preborn are valuable human beings in the same way that Caylee was.<\/p>\n<p>To say that abortion advocates are inconsistent by feeling outrage over Caylee Anthony\u2019s murder and not about abortion is the ultimate example of an informal logical fallacy called \u201cbegging the question,\u201d or assuming what you\u2019re trying to prove.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, it\u2019s inconsistent IF the preborn are valuable human beings like you and I, which is exactly what I believe and defend. But most abortion advocates currently disagree. They think the preborn is more comparable to a mole or a tumor that, if allowed to live, will eventually become a full human being, but not until that being has the present capacity to exhibit one or more functions, like consciousness, viability or breathing oxygen through the lungs. It makes perfect sense for them to feel outrage over Caylee\u2019s murder and not about the killing of a bunch of pre-human moles, and if I thought that the preborn were merely pre-human moles, I would agree with them! There would be a HUGE difference between removing a pre-human mole and murdering a two-year-old girl!<\/p>\n<p>On a side note, there\u2019s a smaller segment of the pro-abortion-choice movement that believes the preborn ARE full human beings like you and me, but that they\u2019re unique dependency on the mother\u2019s body is what gives the mother the right to abort, to protect her bodily integrity. We need to be prepared to dialogue with these people too, but the Casey Anthony story doesn\u2019t apply to them either. They would say that if Casey Anthony indeed did kill her daughter, it would have been morally wrong because her daughter (Caylee) was not dependent on Casey\u2019s body in the same way she was as an embryo or fetus. Thus, I\u2019m focusing on the larger segment of pro-abortion-choice people in this article, who also believe that the preborn is not like you and me, but more comparable to a tooth right before it\u2019s pulled by a dentist.<\/p>\n<p>I think there <em>IS<\/em> a way to use Caylee\u2019s story while talking about abortion, without begging the question. I\u2019ll demonstrate question begging first, and then what I believe is a more appropriate method.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Begging the Question:<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Me:<\/strong> Did you hear about the Caylee Anthony story?<br \/>\n<strong><em>Abortion Advocate:<\/em><\/strong> Yeah, isn\u2019t that horrible?<br \/>\n<strong>Me:<\/strong> Absolutely. It was really difficult to hear the details of that case.<br \/>\n<strong><em>Abortion Advocate:<\/em><\/strong> Yeah, it\u2019s tragic how many stories are out there about parents going crazy and killing their kids.<br \/>\n<strong>Me:<\/strong> Totally. But you believe in a woman\u2019s right to have an abortion, don\u2019t you?<br \/>\n<strong><em>Abortion Advocate:<\/em><\/strong> Well, yes\u2026<br \/>\n<strong>Me:<\/strong> Then it\u2019s inconsistent for you to say that what happened to Caylee Anthony was horrible, because you\u2019re for the killing of 3,300 pre-toddlers every day!<br \/>\n<strong><em>Abortion Advocate:<\/em><\/strong> Wait, what?<br \/>\n<strong>Me:<\/strong> Yeah, because obviously there\u2019s no good difference between a born toddler and a preborn embryo, so you have to either be fine with killing both, or you\u2019ll want to protect both. You can\u2019t have it both ways.<br \/>\n<strong><em>Abortion Advocate:<\/em><\/strong> I don\u2019t want to talk to you anymore.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Notice in that illustration that I <strong>assumed<\/strong> the preborn is a valuable human being, instead of <strong>making a case<\/strong> for the humanity of the preborn. Watch the difference in the next version:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Not Begging the Question:<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Me:<\/strong> Did you hear about the Caylee Anthony story?<br \/>\n<strong><em>Abortion Advocate:<\/em><\/strong> Yeah, isn\u2019t that horrible?<br \/>\n<strong>Me:<\/strong> Absolutely. It was really difficult to hear the details of that case.<br \/>\n<strong><em>Abortion Advocate:<\/em><\/strong> Yeah, it\u2019s tragic how many stories are out there about parents going crazy and killing their kids.<br \/>\n<strong>Me:<\/strong> Yeah, as someone who is pro-life, I\u2019m particularly concerned about that.<br \/>\n<strong><em>Abortion Advocate:<\/em><\/strong> What do you mean?<br \/>\n<strong>Me:<\/strong> Well, I think that children are being killed by their parents a lot more often than we hear about, because I believe that preborn humans are just as valuable as born humans.<br \/>\n<strong><em>Abortion Advocate:<\/em><\/strong> Why would you think that? Fetuses are nothing like toddlers.<br \/>\n<strong>Me:<\/strong> Yeah, it may sound weird at first if you haven\u2019t thought about it before, but here\u2019s my case. We know from the science of embryology that after the fertilization process is over, the result is a unique, individual, whole human being that is biologically alive. (For example, it\u2019s growing, and dead things don\u2019t grow.) We also know that being is a member of the human species because humans beget humans, but I believe a third thing too: I believe that this living human is <em>valuable<\/em>.<br \/>\n<strong><em>Abortion Advocate:<\/em><\/strong> What do you mean when you say \u201cvaluable?\u201d<br \/>\n<strong>Me:<\/strong> I believe all humans are intrinsically valuable, and have basic rights, regardless of how much we benefit society. In fact, I\u2019m not sure we can make sense of the idea of \u201cequal human rights\u201d unless you agree with that. Many pro-choice people think that all humans are equally valuable after they\u2019re born, or once they\u2019re conscious, or viable, or exhibits one of several other functions. But I think we\u2019re valuable even before we can do things like live on our own, and have conscious awareness.<br \/>\n<strong><em>Abortion Advocate:<\/em><\/strong> You\u2019re losing me. Why can\u2019t consciousness be what makes you valuable? My own consciousness sure is valuable to me!<br \/>\n<strong>Me:<\/strong> Definitely! But think of the ramifications of basing the value of a human being on consciousness. It\u2019s true that the preborn aren\u2019t conscious, at least not in the way most people use the term. But neither are newborns. Nor are one-month old infants, for that matter. So if the present capacity to be consciously aware is really what gives humans the right to life, there would be nothing wrong with killing infants that are not yet conscious either.<br \/>\n<strong><em>Abortion Advocate:<\/em><\/strong> Well, I know I\u2019m against that!<br \/>\n<strong>Me:<\/strong> Yeah, me too! So, because I believe the preborn qualify as full human beings like you and me, I\u2019m deeply concerned that more than 3,000 children a day are being killed, and yet most people aren\u2019t as outraged about that as they are about Caylee Anthony, because while everyone agrees that Caylee was fully human, many don\u2019t agree that the preborn are fully human. But I believe all humans are equally valuable, and that we shouldn\u2019t discriminate against humans based on race, ethnicity or gender, nor should we discriminate based on size, level of development, environment, or degree of dependency.<br \/>\n<strong><em>Abortion Advocate:<\/em><\/strong> I\u2019m not sure that I agree with your case, but let me chew on it a while.<br \/>\n<strong>Me:<\/strong> That would be fine. Maybe I could buy you a cup of coffee in a few weeks and we can chat some more. I\u2019ve been doing a lot of the talking today, and I\u2019d love to learn more about your views on this subject.<br \/>\n<strong>Abortion Advocate:<\/strong> That sounds great. Thanks!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yes, that was longer, but I never begged the question either. I made a case for the humanity of the preborn, and then explained why I think Caylee Anthony is comparable to the preborn, even though she was older and able to do many more things functionally than the preborn can.<\/p>\n<p>One final warning to pro-life advocates: If you do use Caylee\u2019s story to talk about abortion right now, you\u2019re in danger of appearing to some like you\u2019re trying to hijack a horrific story about a dead toddler in an attempt to push an agenda. Imagine a pro-life organization that put out a press release on September 11, 2001 saying, \u201cdid you know that more unborn babies die from abortion every day than people that died in the twin towers this morning?\u201d I make that point when talking about abortion statistics during presentations today, to give those numbers more meaning, but if I did that on the day those 3,000 people in the World Trade Center died, it would have been seen by many as a cheap, political bait-and-switch. Be mindful about the way you talk about this story, and to whom.<\/p>\n<p>While I think it\u2019s unfair to criticize abortion advocates for seeming inconsistent for being outraged about Caylee Anthony and not abortion, <strong>I DO think that the same criticism can be made of pro-life people that are more outraged about Caylee Anthony than abortion.<\/strong> I think many pro-life advocates hear horrific stories like this one or what happened to Laci and Connor Peterson, and understandably express outrage. But did you know that in 2008, the same year Caylee was killed, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guttmacher.org\/pubs\/sfaa\/florida.html\" target=\"_blank\">94,360 unborn children also lost their lives in the state of Florida<\/a>? Do you feel just as upset about their deaths? What about the thousands of preborn human beings that are being slaughtered today in abortion facilities across the country? How about tomorrow? Think of the young human beings that are alive today whose hearts will stop beating tomorrow because their heart got sucked down a tube and into a plastic cup along with the rest of their body parts. Are they deserving of the same outrage, even though their manner of death is currently legal?<\/p>\n<p>They should be.<\/p>\n<p>The days of being \u201cpro-life in name only\u201d are over. We need people to stand up and do something about this. We need people to educate themselves, at least enough to make a clear and concise defense of the pro-life position. We need those people to be talking to the pro-choice people around them. We need those people to be praying and counseling outside of abortion facilities, being the last hope for the preborn children at that clinic. We need those people to give money generously to groups that are putting on big projects to protect the preborn. We need those people to vote for life on Election Day.<\/p>\n<p>Because no matter how outraged you are about Caylee Anthony\u2019s murder today, 3,300 other human beings will be killed tomorrow.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Josh Brahm is the Director of Education at Right to Life of Central California\u2019s Fresno\/Madera office, and host of \u00a0<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/prolifepodcast.net\/\"><em>\u201cLife Report: Pro-Life Talk | Real World Answers.<\/em><\/a><em>\u201d Get more of Josh\u2019s unique perspectives on pro-life topics at\u00a0<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/prolifepodcast.net\/\"><em>www.ProLifePodcast.net.<\/em><\/a><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In one of his recent broadcasts, Rush Limbaugh, while talking about the tragic Casey Anthony story,\u00a0said this: \u00a0&#8220;You know, what I don&#8217;t understand about it is they&#8217;re [the media] all card-carrying liberals. When does the death of a child bother them? 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