{"id":33899,"date":"2013-04-29T15:54:01","date_gmt":"2013-04-29T19:54:01","guid":{"rendered":"\/news\/?p=33899"},"modified":"2013-04-29T15:54:01","modified_gmt":"2013-04-29T19:54:01","slug":"media-matters-misrepresents-live-action-video","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/media-matters-misrepresents-live-action-video\/","title":{"rendered":"Media Matters misrepresents Live Action video"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><p>Yesterday, April 28, the blog Media Matters published an article entitled <a href=\"http:\/\/mediamatters.org\/blog\/2013\/04\/28\/live-actions-latest-abortion-clinic-undercover\/193812\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cLive Action&#8217;s Latest Abortion Clinic Undercover Video A Bust\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The article attempts to disparage the footage that Live Action released which showed a 23 week pregnant woman posing as a patient going in for an abortion at Dr. Emily\u2019s Woman\u2019s Clinic\u00a0The footage, which can be seen <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=eipSl72hsmI\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>\u00a0in it\u2019s edited form and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ri1n4gMCdIQ\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a> \u00a0in it\u2019s unedited form, addresses the clinic\u2019s policy of what happens if a baby is born alive.<\/p>\n<p>The pregnant woman asks about what would happen if the baby were to come out intact and alive. I will quote the transcript of the complete footage with no editing so that the reader can see the context.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>WOMAN: And then like, you know, if, if it didn\u2019t work, you know, what would they do? Like, do you know what I\u2019m saying? Like if it was there in one piece, if you\u2019re this far along?<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC-3: No, we never had that for ages, of being it would survive this, no.<\/p>\n<p>WOMAN: You never have that? Really? Ok.<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC-3: Mm.<\/p>\n<p>WOMAN: So what would they do if that did happen, like?<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC-3: They, well, it\u2019s, if it did come out in one piece, it\u2019s very small. So they would still have to put it in like a jar, a container, with solution, and send it to the lab.<\/p>\n<p>WOMAN: Oh, oh okay so they would just be able to just pretty much&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC: Yeah all our specimen have to go out\u00a0<em id=\"__mceDel\">t<\/em>o the lab.<\/p>\n<p>WOMAN: Okay.<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC-3: Yeah. No matter what.<\/p>\n<p>WOMAN: To just, that\u2019s just&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC-3: They&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>WOMAN: That\u2019s just how you get rid, like, that\u2019s just how you get rid of it?<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC-3: Yeah they just, we don\u2019t just throw it out in the garbage.<\/p>\n<p>WOMAN: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no.<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC-3: The lab disposes it.<\/p>\n<p>WOMAN: Oh okay.<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC-3: So wherever they dispose it to.<\/p>\n<p>WOMAN: Like a waste or medical thing or whatever.<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC-3: Yes.<\/p>\n<p>WOMAN: Okay. So I mean like, if it did, if you had to put it in that jar or whatever&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC-3: Mhm.<\/p>\n<p>WOMAN: Like, what if it was like, like what if it was like twitching or like something like that? Like?<br \/>\n01:33:00<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC-3: The solution will make it stop.<\/p>\n<p>WOMAN: Okay. Okay.<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC-3: [Laughter] It\u2019s not gonna be moving around in the jar.<\/p>\n<p>WOMAN: Oh okay, the solution would make it like\u2014<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC-3: Yeah. That\u2019s the whole purpose of the solution.<\/p>\n<p>WOMAN: Okay. So like if it looked like it was breathing or something like that&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC-3: It will automatically stop. It won\u2019t be able to breathe anymore. Not in the, not with the solution.<\/p>\n<p>WOMAN: Ok. So I\u2019m not even gonna see it.<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC-3: No.<\/p>\n<p>WOMAN: Okay, so like if that happens&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC-3: You\u2019re asleep, they take it out and it goes into our lab where they do the stuff with the jar and cleaning and all of that.<\/p>\n<p>WOMAN: Ok. So what is the solution, it\u2019s just like&#8211;something like toxic or something?<\/p>\n<p>CLINIC-3: Yeah<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The Media Matters article starts off:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThe anti-abortion rights group Live Action released today an undercover video claiming to reveal &#8220;illegal and inhuman practices&#8221; at an abortion clinic in New York City, and accused a doctor at the clinic of committing murder. The video reveals nothing of the sort, and actually undermines Live Action&#8217;s baseless allegations that the clinic is performing illegal procedures and endangering the lives of patients.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In this short opening paragraph, Media Matters blogger Simon Maloy commits a logical fallacy called \u201cThe Straw Man Fallacy.\u201d The Straw Man Fallacy is committed when a person distorts the position of their opponent, and then attacks the distorted position as if it were the person\u2019s actual position. The technique of committing a Straw Man fallacy can be shown in an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nizkor.org\/features\/fallacies\/straw-man.html\" target=\"_blank\">equation<\/a> (taken from The Nizkor Project\u201d website )<\/p>\n<p>1. Person A has position X<\/p>\n<p>2. Person B presents position Y (which is a distortion of X)<\/p>\n<p>3. Person B attacks position Y<\/p>\n<p>4. Therefore, X is false\/incorrect\/flawed.<\/p>\n<p>Media Matters wants to attack the credibility of Live Action. They say \u201cLive Action\u2026.accused a doctor at the clinic of committing murder.\u201d They then link to Live Action\u2019s press release. Perhaps the editors at Media Matters do not expect their readers to check original sources and think critically, because nowhere in the press release does Live Action directly accuse the doctor of murder. Rather, Live Action calls for an investigation.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cA clinician\u2019s discussion of the murder of born-alive infants at Dr. Emily\u2019s Women\u2019s Center necessitates immediate investigation. Attorney General Eric Schneiderman should launch a criminal investigation into Dr. Emily\u2019s Women\u2019s Center and Brian Park. New York State Department of Health should launch a license investigation into Brian Park.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>No direct accusation of murder was made against the doctor. Live Action is merely saying that in light of the evidence, and in light of the many stories and testimonies of infanticide that have been publicized recently, of which the Gosnell incident is only one, the clinic should be investigated. This may seem like it\u2019s splitting hairs, but the distinction is an important one. Live Action is not jumping the gun and making a murder accusation. Proof of guilt is not required to launch an investigation- only suspicion of guilt. There is enough evidence to warrant an investigation.<\/p>\n<p>Media Matters does more than just misrepresent Live Action\u2019s position. They also say the following:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201c\u2026.Live Action edited out from the video the portion in which the clinician makes clear that the situation they&#8217;re talking about has never happened in her experience and the discussion is hypothetical, and the video shows the counselor explaining to the woman that the doctor would have to resuscitate the baby if that situation did occur.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The problem here is that the clinic worker never said that such an event never happened. Her words, as stated above, were the following:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cNo, we never had that for ages, of being it would survive this, no.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The exact meaning of this statement is unclear. It sounds quite a bit like \u201cno, we haven\u2019t had that in ages.\u201d Is this what the clinic worker meant? That would imply that it has happened before. The truth is, only one person knows exactly what the statement means- the clinic worker. An implication by a clinic worker that a baby may have been born alive in the past warrants an investigation.<\/p>\n<p>If a police officer asked a suspect \u201chave you ever killed anyone?\u201d and he said \u201cnever, not for ages\u201d should the officer shrug his shoulders and say, \u201cOh, I guess he\u2019s innocent\u201d and let him walk out the door? Or should he question the subject further? Very few officers would simply let the suspect walk- nor should they. Incidentally, the clinic worker also said that &#8220;that&#8217;s the purpose of the solution&#8221; while explaining it would kill the living baby. Another possible admission.<\/p>\n<p>It is true that a second clinic worker said to the pregnant woman that a baby born alive would have to be treated, and she is on tape saying this. But the first clinic worker seemed pretty adamant that a baby born alive in the clinic would NOT be treated. What do you do if you\u2019re conducting an investigation and two witnesses contradict eachother? Do you drop the investigation? Imagine that two individuals believed to be part of a drug dealing ring and are taken into custody and questioned separately. One says, \u201cWhy yes, we deal drugs\u201d and the other says, \u201cNo, we don\u2019t deal drugs\u201d what should the police do? Should they let both suspects go, on the word of the one, or should they question them further? What would we think of police who let the suspects go because of their conflicting stories? The logical thing to do would be clear- investigate further. And this is what Live Action is calling for.<\/p>\n<p>One wonders that if the unedited tape was so damaging and Live Action so deceitful, why the unedited footage is made so easily available on Live Action\u2019s youtube channel for anyone to see, and why the full transcript, not the edited one, appears on Live Action\u2019s website. If Live Action was going to deceive people, why post the unedited material at all, much less in multiple, easy to find places.<\/p>\n<p>No. Media Matters\u2019 accusations are off base. The video footage Live Action shot, though not proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that infanticide is occurring, is very troubling. And an investigation into the possible practice of infanticide at Dr. Emily\u2019s Woman\u2019s Clinic is justified- in fact, it\u2019s common sense.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday, April 28, the blog Media Matters published an article entitled \u201cLive Action&#8217;s Latest Abortion Clinic Undercover Video A Bust\u201d The article attempts to disparage the footage that Live Action released which showed a 23 week pregnant woman posing as a patient going in for an abortion at Dr. Emily\u2019s Woman\u2019s Clinic\u00a0The footage, which can [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":153,"featured_media":31221,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false},"categories":[15],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v20.7 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Media Matters misrepresents Live Action video - 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