{"id":310280,"date":"2024-04-13T15:09:53","date_gmt":"2024-04-13T20:09:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.liveaction.org\/news\/?p=310280"},"modified":"2024-09-20T12:09:34","modified_gmt":"2024-09-20T17:09:34","slug":"fact-checker-fail-poynter-abortion-survivors","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/fact-checker-fail-poynter-abortion-survivors\/","title":{"rendered":"Fact checker fails to tell the truth on abortion survivors and infanticide"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><p>The idea of allowing a baby to die of neglect after surviving an abortion is rightly considered abhorrent; actively killing an infant after birth is even worse. Abortion advocates often deny that these events happen at all; a new article from the fact-checking Poynter Institute for Media Studies is the latest example of this.<\/p>\n<p>An <a href=\"https:\/\/www.poynter.org\/fact-checking\/2024\/trump-abortion-stance-states-exeptions-national-limit\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">article<\/a> from Louis Jacobson and Samantha Putterman set out to debunk claims from President Donald Trump that some politicians support the killing of children, sometimes even those that accidentally survive abortions. In a video posted to Truth Social, Trump called the Democratic Party extreme on the issue of abortion.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey support abortion up to and even beyond the ninth month,\u201d he said. \u201cThe concept of having an abortion in the later months, and even execution after birth. And that\u2019s exactly what it is. The baby is born, the baby is executed after birth is unacceptable, and almost everyone agrees with that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jacobson and Putterman roundly dismissed this claim. &#8220;We have rated similar statements from Trump and other Republican leaders False,&#8221; they wrote. &#8220;Democrats aren\u2019t calling for the killing of infants after birth. Willfully ending a newborn\u2019s life is illegal in every U.S. state.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But is this fact check telling the whole truth? In short, no.<\/p>\n<p>In their article, the authors make at least three serious errors: 1) They put the testimony of abortion providers over actual reported facts from the CDC and state reports, 2) they falsely claim that existing federal law already prevents leaving abortion survivors to die (infanticide), and 3) they claim that infanticide is illegal in every state \u2014 and therefore, it never happens.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_310314\" style=\"width: 812px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-310314\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-310314\" src=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/poynter-institute-screenshot.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"802\" height=\"403\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/poynter-institute-screenshot.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/poynter-institute-screenshot-300x151.jpg 300w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/poynter-institute-screenshot-700x352.jpg 700w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/poynter-institute-screenshot-768x386.jpg 768w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/poynter-institute-screenshot-500x251.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 802px) 100vw, 802px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-310314\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Poynter Institute Screenshot<\/p><\/div>\n<h3>Pro-abortion bias<\/h3>\n<p>Numerous pro-abortion advocates were cited as sources to disprove Trump&#8217;s claim.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cUsing the word \u2018execute\u2019 heightens the rhetoric here, but even if he said \u2018killing\u2019 it doesn\u2019t matter,\u201d Lois Shepherd, a University of Virginia law and biomedical ethics professor, said. \u201cAbortion providers do not do this, doctors do not do this, no politicians that I know of support this \u2014 it\u2019s a made up issue.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Not mentioned is that Shepherd is <a href=\"https:\/\/med.virginia.edu\/biomedical-ethics\/people\/lois-shepherd\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">co-director<\/a> of Studies in Reproductive Ethics and Justice at the University of Virginia, that she has written books in support of abortion, and that she has <a href=\"https:\/\/thehill.com\/opinion\/civil-rights\/441630-a-federal-abortion-law-might-be-needed\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">called for<\/a> a federal law mandating abortion&#8217;s legality.<\/p>\n<p>Mary Ziegler, an abortion historian and law professor at University of California, Davis, also was quoted as saying that Trump&#8217;s use of the word execution \u201cgoes back to a much earlier era, right after Roe, when abortion methods were more primitive. Occasionally there were live births and doctors would be prosecuted.\u201d Ziegler, too, has called for restrictions on abortion to be <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/pro-abortion-writer-ignores-dangers-restricted\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">eliminated<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe language of \u2018execution\u2019 is ignorant, deceptive, inappropriate and is being used only to provoke outrage when in fact it is mercy and compassion that drives post-abortion care of horribly malformed children,\u201d said Arthur Caplan, a bioethicist at New York University Langone Medical Center. Caplan has <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/sham-ethicist-wants-catholic-hospitals-sued-defends-planned-parenthood\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">called for<\/a> Catholic hospitals to be defunded, while urging Planned Parenthood to receive taxpayer dollars. He has also <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/bill-preventing-disability-discrimination-organ-transplants\/\">stated<\/a> that he believes children with disabilities should not be considered for organ transplantation.<\/p>\n<h3>Existing law is not enough<\/h3>\n<p>The article goes on to argue that existing child abuse laws, along with the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act of 2002, is enough to protect abortion survivors from being actively killed or left to die. Yet this is, unfortunately, false.<\/p>\n<p>Other legislation aiming to specifically protect abortion survivors has <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/born-alive-abortion-laws-different\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">failed<\/a> in the past, with pro-abortion legislators and activists specifically claiming that the 2002 legislation was already enough. Yet the 2002 bill includes virtually <em>no penalties<\/em> for anyone who breaks the law.<\/p>\n<p>It does not mandate the kind of treatment abortion survivors should receive, or even if they must be transported to the nearest hospital. The legislation essentially only protects abortion survivors <em>in theory<\/em> by proclaiming them to be \u201cpersons,&#8221; separate from their mothers.<\/p>\n<p>If an abortionist still chooses to leave an abortion survivor to die (or actively kills him or her), there are no &#8220;teeth,&#8221; so to speak, to the 2002 law.<\/p>\n<h3>Abortion survivors exist<\/h3>\n<p>The article outright stated that babies surviving abortions is a myth.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPeople have been looking for evidence for decades of being born alive after abortions and there aren\u2019t any to my knowledge, and that\u2019s not particularly surprising,\u201d Ziegler erroneously claimed. \u201cThe procedures most doctors would use later in pregnancy today would make it impossible to result in a live birth.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Yet this, too, is false.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/gu0Lo_3lmws?si=KjbCo7jryUBEfNwg\" width=\"640\" height=\"355\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/babies-born-alive-abortions-continue\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">revealed<\/a> that over the course of 12 years, over 100 infants survived for at least a short time after abortions. A recent <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/minnesota-babies-born-alive-abortion\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">abortion report<\/a> from Minnesota also revealed that five children were born alive during abortions in that state&#8230; in 2021 <em>alone<\/em>! Furthermore, the report stated that none of them received medical care \u2014 in other words, they were left to die.<\/p>\n<p>Still <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/five-state-reports-one-hundred-born-alive-abortion\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">another report<\/a> found that over 100 babies were born alive following abortions in just five states over approximately a decade. And though Kermit Gosnell is the most notorious example of an abortionist who either allowed abortion survivors to die or actively murdered them, he is <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/gosnell-not-alone-need-investigations-stricter-regulations\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">far from alone<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>READ: <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/abortion-door-infanticide\/\"><em>How legal abortion opened the door to pro-infanticide bills<\/em><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<h3>Infanticide happens, too<\/h3>\n<p>Jacobson and Putterman likewise say it is false that anyone supports infanticide, or that it even happens. &#8220;Trump\u2019s inflammatory rhetoric exaggerates by saying the party supports killing an unwanted infant after birth,&#8221; they wrote. &#8220;This would be infanticide and is illegal in every state.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>First, on the <em>milder<\/em> end of infanticide, there&#8217;s the issue of &#8216;partial-birth&#8217; D&amp;X \u00a0abortions&#8230; which, according to <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/video-planned-parenthood-late-term-abortions\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">undercover footage<\/a> from the Center for Medical Progress (CMP), may very well still be happening.<\/p>\n<p>A D&amp;X &#8216;partial-birth&#8217; abortion procedure is when a preborn baby is fully delivered by the abortionist feet-first, with the baby\u2019s head still inside the mother. The infant&#8217;s entire body is outside of the mother&#8217;s body, with only the head remaining in the vaginal canal. The abortionist then makes an incision in the baby&#8217;s neck, inserts a catheter, and suctions out the baby\u2019s brain, which causes the skull to collapse. Only then is the baby\u2019s head delivered from the mother.<\/p>\n<p>The violent, horrific procedure is illegal federally and in multiple states across the country \u2014 yet Suzie Prabhakaran, vice president of medical affairs for Planned Parenthood of Southwest and Central Florida, says she uses an &#8220;intent statement&#8221; as a way to get around the laws against it. Regardless of how the abortion procedure is actually carried out, as long as abortionists say their &#8220;intent&#8221; is not to violate the law, they consider themselves covered.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo some people train to just document that like, you know, to comply with the partial-birth abortion ban, you basically have to say, \u2018I intend to utilize dismemberment techniques for this procedure,\u2019 which is what we do always,\u201d she said. \u201cLike if you do this procedure with suction, that\u2019s how you do it. So if you document that, then you can just&#8230; some people just don\u2019t do dig [digoxin]. Because that\u2019s how they comply with the ban.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Worse are abortionists and staffers who do outright admit to either <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/abortionists-why-law-abortion-survivors\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">supporting infanticide<\/a> or being willing to commit it.<\/p>\n<p>Planned Parenthood lobbyist Alisa LaPolt Snow testified against a bill requiring medical care for abortion survivors before the Florida House, where she said the fate of babies who survive abortions &#8220;should be between the patient and the healthcare provider.&#8221; In other words, Planned Parenthood&#8217;s position is that a baby should be left to die, if that&#8217;s what the mother and abortionist want.<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/o9E0qwpWJPw?si=le9ZYACPmQnVP-t5\" width=\"640\" height=\"355\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/center>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Former StemExpress technician-turned-whistleblower Holly O\u2019Donnell, who sadly <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/holly-odonnell-planned-parenthood-secrets\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">died in 2018<\/a>, spoke about seeing a baby born alive after an abortion \u2014 and rather than be allowed to provide aid, she was <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/planned-parenthood-support-infanticide-no-surprise\/\">instructed<\/a> to move forward with harvesting the child&#8217;s brain:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 25px;\"><em>She\u2019s like, OK, I want to show you something! So she has one of her instruments, and she just taps the heart, and it starts beating. And I\u2019m sitting here, and I\u2019m looking at this fetus that\u2019s heart is beating, and I don\u2019t know what to think. She was like, do you know why that\u2019s happening? And I knew why that was happening, it\u2019s because the electrical current \u2014 the nodes \u2014 were still firing. And I don\u2019t know if that constitutes \u2014 it\u2019s technically dead, or it\u2019s alive?<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 25px;\"><em>It had a face. It wasn\u2019t completely torn up. And its nose was very pronounced, it had eyelids, and its mouth was pronounced. And then, since the fetus was so intact, she said, \u201cOK, well, this is a really good fetus, and it looks like we can procure a lot from it. We\u2019re gonna procure brain.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 25px;\"><em>So, the moment I hear it, I\u2019m like, that means we\u2019re gonna have to cut the head open. We\u2019re gonna have to cut the head open. So she\u2019s like, \u201cOK, so what you do is, you go through the face,\u201d and I\u2019m thinking, no, I don\u2019t want to do this \u2026 she gave me the scissors and told me to cut down the middle of the face.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Live Action&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.liveaction.org\/what-we-do\/investigations\/inhuman-late-term-abortion\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Inhuman investigation<\/a> likewise featured undercover admissions from various late-term abortion facilities, where staffers stated they would either allow abortion survivors to die, or actively ensure they died. At Family Planning Associates Medical Group in Phoenix, Arizona, an investigator was assured that staff would do nothing to help the baby survive, instructing the woman to go to the abortion facility and not to the hospital if she delivered a live baby.<\/p>\n<p>Cesare Santangelo\u2019s late-term Washington Surgi-Clinic in Washington, D.C., was visited by an investigator who was 25 weeks pregnant; she was told, &#8220;we would \u2013 we would not help it. We wouldn\u2019t intubate.&#8221; Even worse, at Emily\u2019s Women\u2019s Center in the Bronx, the staffer discussed actively killing a baby who survives an abortion. When asked about a baby who is born after an attempted abortion still breathing, she said they would place the baby in a jar of &#8220;solution.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 25px;\"><em>The solution will make it stop. It\u2019s not going to be moving around in the jar \u2026 that\u2019s the whole purpose of the solution. It\u2019ll automatically stop. It won\u2019t be able to\u2026 not with the solution\u2026. It won\u2019t be able to breathe anymore.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Recent bills in <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/fact-checking-maryland-bill-infanticide-media\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Maryland<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/colorado-infanticide-force-abortion\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Colorado<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/california-infant-death-neglect\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">California<\/a> also were phrased in a way that <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/abortion-door-infanticide\/\">legal experts believe<\/a> could create a legal loophole to allow infanticide. Bioethicists, including the notorious <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/bioethicist-peter-singer-doubles-down-infanticide\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Peter Singer<\/a>, have unabashedly <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/bioethicist-defends-infanticide-born-preborn\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">argued in favor<\/a> of infanticide. Even the Presbyterian Church USA refused to issue a vote <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/shock-presbyterian-church-usa-votes-against-denouncing-infanticide\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">denouncing infanticide<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s not pleasant to confront the notion that some people do, in fact, support infanticide, and that abortion survivors do exist&#8230; and frequently are left to die. But that doesn&#8217;t make it false.<\/p>\n<p>Denying this reality based on the words of a few abortion activists is either propaganda disguised as a fact-check, or insane levels of ignorance from people who call themselves journalists.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/actnow.io\/ARQQhk1\"><b><i>The DOJ put a pro-life grandmother in jail for protesting the killing of preborn children. Please take 30-seconds to TELL CONGRESS: STOP THE DOJ FROM TARGETING PRO-LIFE AMERICANS.<\/i><\/b><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The idea of allowing a baby to die of neglect after surviving an abortion is rightly considered abhorrent; actively killing an infant after birth is even worse. Abortion advocates often deny that these events happen at all; a new article from the fact-checking Poynter Institute for Media Studies is the latest example of this. 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