{"id":307989,"date":"2024-03-05T10:42:40","date_gmt":"2024-03-05T16:42:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.liveaction.org\/news\/?p=307989"},"modified":"2024-03-05T09:44:56","modified_gmt":"2024-03-05T15:44:56","slug":"the-view-cohost-embryos-not-alive","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/the-view-cohost-embryos-not-alive\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;The View&#8217; cohost claims &#8216;science&#8217; shows human embryos are &#8216;not alive&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><p>Following an Alabama Supreme Court <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/alabama-supreme-court-embryos-children\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">ruling<\/a> last month that decided that frozen embryos are to be considered children under the state&#8217;s Wrongful Death of a Minor Act, two co-hosts of &#8220;The View&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.huffpost.com\/entry\/the-view-debate-alabama-frozen-embryos-ruling_n_65da5ff4e4b0189a6a7e0ed7\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">debated<\/a> whether or not human embryos are human beings worthy of protection under the law. In order to argue that embryos should not be considered children, one co-host claimed that embryos aren&#8217;t even &#8220;alive.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Living embryos are alive<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Sara Haines told fellow co-host Sunny Hostin that she was considering the &#8220;facts&#8221; and &#8220;science&#8221; regarding whether or not frozen embryos are human beings worthy of being called children. She decided they are <em>not<\/em> worthy, but her reasons as to <em>why <\/em>she thinks so are unfounded. Regarding &#8220;a fertilized embryo&#8221; (which is not a scientific term, by the way) that is &#8220;three to five days old,&#8221; Haines said, &#8220;It is not alive outside of a uterus. It has no organs, it is not a life yet, it is not viable till it&#8217;s 24 weeks.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Here is a photo of a preborn child at 8 weeks past fertilization (10 weeks LMP).:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_248915\" style=\"width: 603px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-248915\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-large wp-image-248915\" src=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/8-week-child-in-womb-593x700.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"593\" height=\"700\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/8-week-child-in-womb-593x700.jpg 593w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/8-week-child-in-womb-254x300.jpg 254w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/8-week-child-in-womb-768x907.jpg 768w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/8-week-child-in-womb-500x591.jpg 500w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/8-week-child-in-womb.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 593px) 100vw, 593px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-248915\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">8 weeks<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Hostin disagreed, but Haines condescendingly pushed, &#8220;This is science, Sunny.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>She snarked, \u201cThe embryo is an embryo until 10 weeks when it becomes a fetus, a fetus is not viable until 24 weeks. If we\u2019re going to use science, let\u2019s use scientific terms.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But Haines misunderstands both biology and the meaning of &#8220;viability.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">\u00a0<iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none; overflow: hidden;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/plugins\/video.php?height=476&amp;href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FNypostLifestyle%2Fvideos%2F1133828027799772%2F&amp;show_text=false&amp;width=267&amp;t=0\" width=\"267\" height=\"476\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>Labels don&#8217;t define a human&#8217;s humanity<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">But whether or not &#8216;scientific terms&#8217; are used to label a preborn child does not make her any more or less human. At fertilization, a new human life comes into existence complete with her own unique DNA and traits from her hair color to sex are already determined. This is basic biology. Whether she is labeled a zygote or an embryo or a baby does not change science. This &#8216;label&#8217; does not make humans human \u2014 DNA does.<\/p>\n<p>Likewise, to say an embryo is not alive because it is not inside the uterus is false. An embryo is growing and changing from within. This type of growth is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.toppr.com\/guides\/biology\/the-living-world\/living-things\/#:~:text=However%2C%20we%20define%20growth%20as,things%20growth%20is%20from%20outside.\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">unique<\/a> to living organisms. Like born humans, an embryo <em>outside of its natural environment<\/em> will not survive, but that doesn&#8217;t mean it was <em>never<\/em> <em>alive<\/em>. If you leave a born human being in space or in the ocean without what it needs to survive (oxygen, potable water, food, etc.), that human will eventually die \u2014 but obviously, that human was alive before he was left in an environment hostile to his own survival.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/S-lQOooYAs8?si=HxmyQQVr98rt5qDh\" width=\"640\" height=\"355\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>External factors don&#8217;t determine humanity<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Haines was not alone in her erroneous beliefs about science and human life. She had the support of several commenters on The New York Post&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/watch\/?ref=embed_video&amp;v=1133828027799772\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">video<\/a> of The View co-hosts sparring.<\/p>\n<p>One person wrote, &#8220;Not all living things are a person. An embryo is not a person. Can I get a social security number for an embryo? How about a life insurance policy? Can I get a court to sign a child support order for an embryo? Just because what may one day be a person is living inside of a woman doesn&#8217;t mean that thing is a person yet.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-308000 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-12.51.30\u202fPM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"523\" height=\"325\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-12.51.30\u202fPM.png 523w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-12.51.30\u202fPM-300x186.png 300w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-12.51.30\u202fPM-500x311.png 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 523px) 100vw, 523px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>However, these questions have nothing to do with a person&#8217;s <em>humanity<\/em> as a member of the<em> human species.<\/em> After all, immigrants to the United States aren&#8217;t issued immediate social security numbers, <em>but that doesn&#8217;t mean they aren&#8217;t humans<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>As for a life insurance policy, it can be impossible for even adults with a chronic health condition to get life insurance. That doesn&#8217;t mean they aren&#8217;t human. Pro-life legislators in <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/kentucky-bill-child-support-pregnancy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kentucky<\/a> are working to ensure child support exists for babies in the womb to help mothers cover medical expenses related to pregnancy. But if child support is not paid, the doesn&#8217;t negate a child&#8217;s humanity. If a father doesn&#8217;t pay child support for a born child, his child isn&#8217;t any less of a human being than a child whose father pays thousands in child support.<\/p>\n<p>None of these external factors determine a person&#8217;s humanity.<\/p>\n<p>Another commenter argued, &#8220;Beliefs are one thing, facts and science are another. It&#8217;s time we respect scientific facts over what people feel like.&#8221; But Haines is wrong, and so is this commenter \u2014 because the accepted facts <em>can change<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-large wp-image-308001 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-12.50.25\u202fPM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"635\" height=\"145\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-12.50.25\u202fPM.png 635w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-12.50.25\u202fPM-300x69.png 300w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-12.50.25\u202fPM-500x114.png 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 635px) 100vw, 635px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>What was once considered fact \u2014 the earth being flat, for example \u2014 has sometimes later been proven wrong. It was once believed that <a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/23548489\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">newborns<\/a> can&#8217;t feel pain, but this has been proven wrong as well. It was once believed the pregnancy began at &#8216;quickening&#8217; but medical inventions have proven otherwise. New technology <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/science-confirms-that-human-life-begins-at-fertilization\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">continues<\/a> to emerge that is confirming that human life begins at fertilization. The Doppler allows us to hear the human heart in the womb, which begins to beat at about 21 days post-fertilization. Ultrasounds \u2014 especially the newer 4D ultrasounds \u2014 show us a much clearer picture of life inside the womb than ever before. And doctors can now perform surgeries on preborn children.<\/p>\n<p>These truths are not based on religious beliefs but on scientific fact that has been emerging and changing over time.<\/p>\n<p>Other commenters compared preborn children to &#8216;parasites&#8217; and &#8216;tape worms.&#8217; One claimed, &#8220;Being alive doesn&#8217;t make those things people.&#8221; But a tapeworm is not a human being, nor can it ever become one. What makes a human a human is not simply being alive, but having human DNA.<\/p>\n<p>A parasite is defined as &#8220;an <span class=\"AraNOb\">organism<\/span>\u00a0that lives in or on an organism <em>of another species.&#8221; <\/em>(emphasis added) A human embryo can&#8217;t be a parasite to a human adult because they are the same species. That embryo also did not relocate itself to its mother but was created <em>by<\/em> the mother&#8217;s natural biological functions along with the sperm from the father.<\/p>\n<p>To say that &#8220;a life is only a life when it can support itself&#8221; is also false. Countless human beings rely on life support, supplemental oxygen, or insulin pumps. This doesn&#8217;t mean they aren&#8217;t living humans. It means they are living humans who are benefiting from medical advancements meant to protect humans. In addition, a newborn can&#8217;t support her own life any more than a fetus in the womb at 29 weeks can.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-307999 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-12.51.45\u202fPM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"523\" height=\"157\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-12.51.45\u202fPM.png 523w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-12.51.45\u202fPM-300x90.png 300w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-12.51.45\u202fPM-500x150.png 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 523px) 100vw, 523px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-307997 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-12.53.49\u202fPM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"528\" height=\"324\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-12.53.49\u202fPM.png 528w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-12.53.49\u202fPM-300x184.png 300w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-12.53.49\u202fPM-500x307.png 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 528px) 100vw, 528px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-307994 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-1.03.41\u202fPM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"670\" height=\"82\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-1.03.41\u202fPM.png 670w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-1.03.41\u202fPM-300x37.png 300w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-1.03.41\u202fPM-500x61.png 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 670px) 100vw, 670px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>One commenter fell back on a common erroneous idea to compare chicken eggs to human embryos. &#8220;But yet you don&#8217;t care about that egg in that pan being a life,&#8221; they wrote. But an unfertilized chicken egg is not an embryo. Embryos are created when eggs are fertilized \u2014 again, this is basic biology. And a chicken is not a human. Humans are protected from harm by laws, while chickens serve as food sources for humans. One of the problems with legalized abortion is that it is the result of the government&#8217;s failure to protect all human beings equally.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-307995 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-1.02.45\u202fPM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"670\" height=\"110\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-1.02.45\u202fPM.png 670w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-1.02.45\u202fPM-300x49.png 300w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-1.02.45\u202fPM-500x82.png 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 670px) 100vw, 670px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a scientific fact that a new, living human being comes into existence at fertilization. It doesn&#8217;t matter how or where fertilization occurs, only that it did occur. It also doesn&#8217;t matter how long that unique human being lives \u2014 just that she was created and lived whether for five days or 100 years. It doesn&#8217;t matter if she was never issued a social security number or if she never received child support. She was always a human being from the start.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/actnow.io\/ARQQhk1\"><b><i>The DOJ put a pro-life grandmother in jail for protesting the killing of preborn children. Please take 30-seconds to TELL CONGRESS: STOP THE DOJ FROM TARGETING PRO-LIFE AMERICANS.<\/i><\/b><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Following an Alabama Supreme Court ruling last month that decided that frozen embryos are to be considered children under the state&#8217;s Wrongful Death of a Minor Act, two co-hosts of &#8220;The View&#8221; debated whether or not human embryos are human beings worthy of protection under the law. 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