{"id":296991,"date":"2023-08-26T15:45:03","date_gmt":"2023-08-26T20:45:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.liveaction.org\/news\/?p=296991"},"modified":"2023-08-25T17:20:47","modified_gmt":"2023-08-25T22:20:47","slug":"woman-psychiatric-help-assisted-suicide","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/woman-psychiatric-help-assisted-suicide\/","title":{"rendered":"Hospital suggests assisted suicide for woman seeking mental health care"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><p>A Canadian woman seeking psychiatric treatment for suicidal thoughts at a Vancouver hospital says she was offered information on Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD) \u2014 the country&#8217;s legalized assisted suicide and euthanasia \u2014 instead of treatment.<\/p>\n<p>Kathrin Mentler told <a href=\"https:\/\/thetyee.ca\/News\/2023\/08\/09\/Medical-Assistance-Dying-Slippery-Slope-Mental-Illness-Disabled\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Tyee<\/a> that she&#8217;s long suffered from chronic depression and anxiety.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI live with chronic suicidal thoughts but that doesn\u2019t mean I never feel joy in my life,\u201d she explained. When she found herself in a downward spiral this spring, she headed to Vancouver General Hospital\u2019s Access and Assessment Centre for assistance.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat day my goal was to keep myself safe. I was thinking of maybe trying to get myself admitted to hospital because I was in crisis,\u201d she said. Instead of giving Mentler the help she was seeking, Mentler said a hospital counselor told her the mental health system was &#8220;completely overwhelmed&#8221; and the earliest she could get a psychiatric appointment would be November.<\/p>\n<p>Her only other option would be to speak to the on-call psychiatrist, but doing so would mean admitting herself and waiting in a holding room until a bed became available, with no guaranteed timeframe as to when that would happen.<\/p>\n<p><strong>READ: <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/pro-life-groups-shut-down-abortion-facility\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>How pro-life groups shut down a dangerous abortion facility<\/em><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was pretty disheartening and made me feel helpless,\u201d Mentler said. \u201cI\u2019m coming here because I\u2019m looking for help and you\u2019re telling me there is no help.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>To make matters worse, the counselor then asked Mentler if she had considered assisted suicide, telling her that many patients take extra medication before the procedure to avoid a painful death. The counselor also shared the personal story of another mental health patient who had been on multiple medications and drowned, with the counselor noting they were &#8220;sad&#8221; but &#8220;felt relief&#8221; upon learning of the patient&#8217;s death.<\/p>\n<p>Mentler said she was troubled by the counselor&#8217;s insinuation that relief could be found in death.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat made me feel like my life was worthless or a problem that could be solved if I chose MAiD,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>For its part, the hospital has now said that the mention of MAiD was strictly protocol to assess the patient&#8217;s suicidal thoughts \u2014 though it hasn&#8217;t commented on the counselor&#8217;s additional statements.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFor patients who present with suicidality, staff complete a clinical evaluation with each client and explore all available care options, which may include questions about whether they have considered Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD) as part of the patient\u2019s contemplations,\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/news\/world\/americas\/vancouver-hospital-canada-assisted-suicide-maid-b2390914.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">said<\/a> a spokesperson.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe understand this conversation could be upsetting for some patients, and we share our deepest apologies for any distress caused.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Though assisted suicide in Canada isn&#8217;t yet available for patients suffering from mental illness alone (though lawmakers <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/canada-assisted-suicide-mental-illness-delay\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">are pursuing it<\/a>), the cases of MAiD have skyrocketed for other situations, including poverty and the inability to access proper medical treatment.<\/p>\n<p>Like Mentler, <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/canadian-veteran-offered-euthanasia\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">others<\/a> have described being offered MAiD without ever asking for it, or in place of <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/canadian-soldier-euthanasia-ptsd\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">actual health care<\/a>. These instances show that once death is seen as a solution to many of life&#8217;s problems, it will often be suggested as an option to anyone who is suffering.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.liveaction.org\/stop-planned-parenthood\/?utm_campaign=sex_ed_petition&amp;utm_medium=LAN&amp;utm_source=website\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-large wp-image-295788 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Stop-PP-From-Sexualizing-Kids970x250-blur-700x180.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"180\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Stop-PP-From-Sexualizing-Kids970x250-blur-700x180.jpg 700w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Stop-PP-From-Sexualizing-Kids970x250-blur-300x77.jpg 300w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Stop-PP-From-Sexualizing-Kids970x250-blur-768x198.jpg 768w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Stop-PP-From-Sexualizing-Kids970x250-blur-500x129.jpg 500w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Stop-PP-From-Sexualizing-Kids970x250-blur.jpg 970w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A Canadian woman seeking psychiatric treatment for suicidal thoughts at a Vancouver hospital says she was offered information on Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD) \u2014 the country&#8217;s legalized assisted suicide and euthanasia \u2014 instead of treatment. Kathrin Mentler told The Tyee that she&#8217;s long suffered from chronic depression and anxiety. \u201cI live with chronic suicidal [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":607,"featured_media":286011,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false},"categories":[4,3473],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v20.7 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Hospital suggests assisted suicide for woman seeking mental health care<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"A Canadian woman who went to a hospital seeking psychiatric treatment was asked if she had considered assisted suicide.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/woman-psychiatric-help-assisted-suicide\/\" 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