{"id":227626,"date":"2020-07-22T10:50:23","date_gmt":"2020-07-22T15:50:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.liveaction.org\/news\/?p=227626"},"modified":"2020-07-21T12:32:41","modified_gmt":"2020-07-21T17:32:41","slug":"poll-pro-choice-support-abortion-restrictions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/poll-pro-choice-support-abortion-restrictions\/","title":{"rendered":"Poll: &#8216;Pro-choice&#8217; people support a lot more abortion restrictions than you&#8217;d expect"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><p>(<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.secularprolife.org\/2020\/07\/poll-pro-choicers-support-lot-more.html?m=1\">Secular Pro-Life<\/a>)\u00a0When polls regarding abortion ask Americans about<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><i>Roe v. Wade<\/i>, most people say they want the Supreme Court decision upheld. But when the same polls ask people when they think abortion should be legal, most believe there should be more restrictions than<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><i>Roe v. Wade<\/i><span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>actually allows.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.secularprolife.org\/2018\/09\/the-people-want-roe-to-stay.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">I&#8217;ve summarized these contradictory results before.<\/a><span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>Today I was reading a<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/maristpoll.marist.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/NPR_PBS-NewsHour_Marist-Poll_USA-NOS-and-Tables-on-Abortion_1906051428_FINAL.pdf#page=3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2019 NPR\/PBS Marist poll<\/a>which captured the same phenomenon.<\/p>\n<p>The poll asked: In 1973, the<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><i>Roe v. Wade<\/i><span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>decision by the U.S. Supreme Court established the constitutional right for women to legally obtain an abortion. Over time, other laws have expanded or restricted this ruling. Do you think the U.S. Supreme Court today should decide to:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Overturn <i>Roe v. Wade<\/i><\/li>\n<li>Keep <i>Roe v. Wade<\/i> but add more restrictions<\/li>\n<li>Keep <i>Roe v. Wade<\/i> but reduce some of the restrictions<\/li>\n<li>Expand <i>Roe v. Wade<\/i> establishing the right to abortion under any circumstance<\/li>\n<li>Keep <i>Roe v. Wade<\/i> the way it is<\/li>\n<li>Unsure<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The poll found that 39% of respondents thought <i>Roe v. Wade <\/i>should either be overturned or have more restrictions compared to 51% who thought <i>Roe v. Wade<\/i> should either be kept as is or strengthened. Broken down by self-identified pro-life vs pro-choice labels, the results looked like this:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/--p5bzBEAjp0\/XwNm94492LI\/AAAAAAAAmUU\/wVt6a5qklUMuqBd5AodNBvzXLynChi0zwCLcBGAsYHQ\/s1600\/Slide7.JPG\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/--p5bzBEAjp0\/XwNm94492LI\/AAAAAAAAmUU\/wVt6a5qklUMuqBd5AodNBvzXLynChi0zwCLcBGAsYHQ\/s280\/Slide7.JPG\" width=\"383\" height=\"256\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"421\" data-original-width=\"631\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>So&#8230;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>As you&#8217;d expect, pro-life people were more likely to say <i>Roe v. Wade <\/i>should be overturned or further restricted and pro-choice people were more likely to say the opposite.<\/li>\n<li>Even so, 18% of self-described pro-lifers said <i>Roe v. Wade<\/i> should be kept as is or strengthened, and 21% of pro-choicers thought it should be further restricted or overturned.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The poll described <i>Roe v. Wade<\/i> as establishing a woman&#8217;s constitutional right to abortion, but it did not explain the specifics. <i>Roe v. Wade<\/i>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.secularprolife.org\/2010\/12\/roe-v-wade-brief-overview.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">along with <i>Doe v. Bolton<\/i><\/a>,\u00a0made it difficult if not impossible to constitutionally limit abortion in the first two trimesters. (<i>Planned Parenthood v. Casey<\/i> moved the standard from trimesters to fetal viability, but the situation is largely the same: restrictions in the first or second trimester are difficult to pass or uphold.)<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t think most people are aware of that level of detail, which may explain why some of the same people who say they support <i>Roe v. Wade<\/i> also think abortion shouldn&#8217;t be allowed in some of the circumstances <i>Roe v. Wade<\/i> specifically mandates.<\/p>\n<p>The same poll asked: Which one of the following statements comes closest to your opinion on abortion?<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Abortion should be available to a woman any time she wants one during her entire pregnancy.<\/li>\n<li>Abortion should be allowed only during the first six months of pregnancy.<\/li>\n<li>Abortion should be allowed only during the first three months of pregnancy.<\/li>\n<li>Abortion should be allowed only in cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the woman.<\/li>\n<li>Abortion should be allowed only to save the life of the woman.<\/li>\n<li>Abortion should never be permitted under any circumstance.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>47% of respondents chose options 4-6, i.e. abortion should be permitted only in the &#8220;hard cases,&#8221; or not at all. Only 29% thought abortion should be allowed after the first three months of pregnancy.<\/p>\n<p>Based on my experiences with pro-life and pro-choice activists, I would expect pro-lifers to mostly say abortion should be allowed only in the hard cases, or never at all, and I&#8217;d expect pro-choicers to mostly say abortion should be allowed in at least the first 6 months of pregnancy. Here are the actual responses:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-NkRXlrMz9FI\/XwNro8jdDhI\/AAAAAAAAmUk\/5wZ5Kao2GukKgbPYO8G1j4NE-JDvwvXawCLcBGAsYHQ\/s1600\/Slide1.JPG\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-NkRXlrMz9FI\/XwNro8jdDhI\/AAAAAAAAmUk\/5wZ5Kao2GukKgbPYO8G1j4NE-JDvwvXawCLcBGAsYHQ\/s280\/Slide1.JPG\" width=\"376\" height=\"250\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"424\" data-original-width=\"636\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Compared to my expectations, 12% of pro-lifers answered differently (9% said abortion should be allowed in the first three months, 3% said it should be allowed even later). And a whopping 54% of pro-choicers answered differently: 33% said abortion should be allowed only in the first three months, and 21% said it should be allowed only for the hard cases. In other words, <b>over half of self-identified pro-choice people believe abortion should be restricted in ways <i>Roe v. Wade<\/i> absolutely does not allow<\/b>.<\/p>\n<p>I also wonder how many of them realize that the hard cases account for less (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.johnstonsarchive.net\/policy\/abortion\/abreasons.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">probably much less<\/a>) than 5% of abortions performed in the U.S. If the data above are accurate, about 1 out of 5 pro-choicers think over 95% of abortions (those performed on healthy fetuses carried by healthy women in pregnancies resulting from consensual sex) shouldn&#8217;t be allowed.<\/p>\n<p>Also worth noting: contrary to the &#8220;old white men&#8221; trope, white people tended to be more pro-choice (more likely to support abortion in more circumstances) than everyone else:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-ft4D4NW69lA\/XwNutsJ4x2I\/AAAAAAAAmUw\/bqCrYqsRB7cuFYuqSbj2s4Q7JgtsRwLxwCLcBGAsYHQ\/s1600\/Slide6.JPG\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-ft4D4NW69lA\/XwNutsJ4x2I\/AAAAAAAAmUw\/bqCrYqsRB7cuFYuqSbj2s4Q7JgtsRwLxwCLcBGAsYHQ\/s280\/Slide6.JPG\" width=\"365\" height=\"244\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"417\" data-original-width=\"625\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>A 45% plurality of people under age 45, and 45% of women, say abortion should be limited to the hard cases. Only 32% of people under age 45 and 27% of women believe abortion should be allowed after the first three months of pregnancy.<\/p>\n<p>One more interesting tidbit: a full <b>68% of pro-choicers said they would support a measure requiring abortion providers to have hospital admitting privileges<\/b>. You&#8217;d think such a law would be easy common ground, middle-of-the-road type stuff, but<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nationalreview.com\/2020\/06\/supreme-court-abortion-decision-chief-justice-john-roberts-misrules\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">June Medical Services v. Russo<\/a><\/i> suggests otherwise.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, the poll also asked people to explain when they believe life begins. Specifically: do you believe human life begins&#8230;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>at conception<\/li>\n<li>within the first eight weeks of pregnancy<\/li>\n<li>within the first three months of pregnancy<\/li>\n<li>between three and six months<\/li>\n<li>when a fetus is viable and can live outside the womb<\/li>\n<li>at birth<\/li>\n<li>unsure<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>A plurality (38%) said life begins at conception; 16% said life begins at birth. Broken down by pro-life and pro-choice labels:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/--rmkfJZBgJ4\/XwNxpHVwAqI\/AAAAAAAAmVE\/IQs6FULlcDc89QgsCy6ZAYhdoHtq9mzMACLcBGAsYHQ\/s1600\/Slide8.JPG\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/--rmkfJZBgJ4\/XwNxpHVwAqI\/AAAAAAAAmVE\/IQs6FULlcDc89QgsCy6ZAYhdoHtq9mzMACLcBGAsYHQ\/s280\/Slide8.JPG\" width=\"406\" height=\"271\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"423\" data-original-width=\"634\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Pro-lifers are relatively monolithic on this (72% said life begins at conception), whereas pro-choice people are much more evenly divided (and twice as likely to say they&#8217;re unsure). No doubt some of these answers reflect the respondents&#8217; philosophical views about when a human becomes a <i>person<\/i>, as opposed to their understanding of biology (e.g. when an organism is a living member of the species homo sapiens). Still, I continue to suspect that a significant proportion of pro-choice people aren&#8217;t just conflating philosophy with biology but are <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.secularprolife.org\/2020\/06\/the-pro-choice-view-survives-on.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">actually misunderstanding biology itself<\/a>. Indeed, a survey of pro-choice people found that if it were common knowledge that a fetus is a biological human, <a href=\"https:\/\/heterodoxacademy.org\/social-science-abortion-attitudes\/?fbclid=IwAR1nc34lnPLxcjdscPPEl5k94QwSwG4ba9wjqwLyw8Ctp9jbQZc3ZVu8kUM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">90% believed abortion rates would decrease and 83% believed support for legal abortion would decrease<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>This NPR\/PBS poll was filled with information suggesting that the legal status quo for abortion in the U.S. is actually pretty dramatically at odds with what most Americans think makes sense. So how did NPR cover the poll?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-v1u74eRkn4Q\/XwOjX07uKTI\/AAAAAAAAmYI\/3XGHydEwkxYnaVyffb0-ooyLYMvbOLKpwCLcBGAsYHQ\/s1600\/NPR%2Bpoll%2Bmost%2Bamericans%2Bsupport%2Babortion%2Brights.PNG\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-v1u74eRkn4Q\/XwOjX07uKTI\/AAAAAAAAmYI\/3XGHydEwkxYnaVyffb0-ooyLYMvbOLKpwCLcBGAsYHQ\/s280\/NPR%2Bpoll%2Bmost%2Bamericans%2Bsupport%2Babortion%2Brights.PNG\" alt=\"\" width=\"358\" height=\"143\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"371\" data-original-width=\"933\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Mmmk.<\/p>\n<p><em>Editor&#8217;s Note: This article was published at Secular Pro-Life and is reprinted here with permission.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/liveactionnewsonline\/\">\u201cLike\u201d Live Action News on Facebook<\/a> for more pro-life news and commentary!<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Secular Pro-Life)\u00a0When polls regarding abortion ask Americans about\u00a0Roe v. 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