{"id":197136,"date":"2019-05-08T16:03:53","date_gmt":"2019-05-08T21:03:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.liveaction.org\/news\/?p=197136"},"modified":"2019-05-07T00:29:52","modified_gmt":"2019-05-07T05:29:52","slug":"abortion-counselor-claims-parenting-abortion-morally-equivalent","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/abortion-counselor-claims-parenting-abortion-morally-equivalent\/","title":{"rendered":"Abortion counselor claims parenting and abortion are morally equivalent"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><p>A\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/vimeo.com\/129465362\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">video<\/a>\u00a0<span class=\"_1fHNK\">presented by abortion counselor\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/directory.ucsf.edu\/people\/search\/id\/11209\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Alissa Perrucci, Phd, MPH<\/a>,\u00a0who\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.all-options.org\/backline-love-alissa-perrucci\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">describes<\/a> herself as &#8220;shepherding the counseling revolution,&#8221; presents as normal the idea that there is no moral distinction between parenting a child and ending a child&#8217;s life in an abortion. The <a href=\"https:\/\/vimeo.com\/129465362\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">video<\/a>, &#8220;<span class=\"_1fHNK\">Decision Counseling for Positive Pregnancy Test Results,&#8221; was\u00a0<\/span>uploaded as part of training modules from <a class=\"js-user_link _1urEL _1KVNy\" href=\"https:\/\/vimeo.com\/innovatingeducation\">Innovating Education,<\/a>\u00a0a\u00a0project of the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bixbycenter.ucsf.edu\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bixby Center for Global Reproductive Health<\/a>\u00a0at the University of California San Francisco (UCSF).\u00a0Bixby\u00a0trains abortion providers though its\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ryanprogram.org\/\">Ryan Residency Training Program.<\/a><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_197152\" style=\"width: 764px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-197152\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-197152\" src=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-all-pregnancy-options-are-moral.jpg\" alt=\"Image: Alissa Perrucci all pregnancy options are moral\" width=\"754\" height=\"388\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-all-pregnancy-options-are-moral.jpg 754w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-all-pregnancy-options-are-moral-300x154.jpg 300w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-all-pregnancy-options-are-moral-700x360.jpg 700w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-all-pregnancy-options-are-moral-500x257.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 754px) 100vw, 754px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-197152\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Alissa Perrucci claims all pregnancy options are moral<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Perrucci is a\u00a0Counseling and Administrative Manager at the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.obgyn.medschool.ucsf.edu\/sfgh\/clinics\/our_clinics\/services.aspx#options\">Women\u2019s Options\u00a0Center<\/a>, an abortion facility within San Francisco General Hospital. She <a href=\"https:\/\/www.all-options.org\/backline-love-alissa-perrucci\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">admitted<\/a> to <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/fake-pregnancy-center-parenting-not-abortion\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">All-Options<\/a>, &#8220;Our clinic is the safety net clinic for Northern and Central California, accepting <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/california-taxpayers-half-billion-abortion\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Medi-Cal<\/a> as full payment to 24 weeks&#8230;.&#8221;\u00a0 In her <a href=\"https:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=nvLbdwRmSDgC&amp;pg=PR18&amp;lpg=PR18&amp;dq=Women%E2%80%99s+Options+Center,+Alissa+Perrucci&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=m5YYoUHbIT&amp;sig=ACfU3U0SGh4UHETdBXTE5sUbtcAKwq8oiA&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjpxpbbmdHgAhUFW60KHRaJA9o4FBDoATAAegQICRAB#v=onepage&amp;q=Women%E2%80%99s%20Options%20Center%2C%20Alissa%20Perrucci&amp;f=false\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">book<\/a>, Perrucci claims that being an abortion counselor brings her joy, &#8220;when women are walking toward the exit after their abortions&#8230;.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>In the <a href=\"https:\/\/vimeo.com\/129465362\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">video<\/a>, Perrucci states that in the decision between abortion and parenting, one &#8220;pregnancy decision is not more moral than another.&#8221; Of the woman contemplating her choices, which include abortion,\u00a0Perrucci says, &#8220;She is a good person making a moral decision about herself,&#8221; adding, &#8220;The patient has the answer for her dilemma.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/129465362\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Perrucci goes on to suggest that abortion counselors should give &#8220;accurate information.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But, she adds, &#8220;In this context &#8211; in helping people make pregnancy decisions &#8211; I want you to suspend that assumption that you have the answer and let the patient find that for herself.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_197137\" style=\"width: 799px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-197137\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-197137\" src=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-abortion-counseling.jpg\" alt=\"Image: Alissa Perrucci on abortion counseling\" width=\"789\" height=\"394\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-abortion-counseling.jpg 789w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-abortion-counseling-300x150.jpg 300w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-abortion-counseling-768x384.jpg 768w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-abortion-counseling-700x350.jpg 700w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-abortion-counseling-500x250.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 789px) 100vw, 789px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-197137\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Alissa Perrucci on abortion counseling<\/p><\/div>\n<p>She tells her audience that in pregnancy counseling, abortion counselors should &#8220;take a step back from professional mode.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;In this context, when guiding people through pregnancy decision making, you actually don&#8217;t have the answer. Nor are you obligated to find it out for the patient. Remember that she has the answer.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Perrucci offers two examples (seen below) when delivering the news of &#8220;a positive pregnancy test result&#8221; to a pregnant client.\u00a0Calling it a &#8220;closed ended question,&#8221; Perrucci draws the attention of her audience to the statement on the left, pointing out that using the term &#8220;baby&#8221; isn&#8217;t a good idea&#8230;.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_197138\" style=\"width: 536px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-197138\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-197138\" src=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-positive-pregnancy-test-result.jpg\" alt=\"Image: Alissa Perrucci on positive pregnancy test result\" width=\"526\" height=\"405\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-positive-pregnancy-test-result.jpg 526w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-positive-pregnancy-test-result-300x231.jpg 300w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-positive-pregnancy-test-result-500x385.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 526px) 100vw, 526px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-197138\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Alissa Perrucci on positive pregnancy test result<\/p><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;The thing you want to look at and analyze is the use of the word <em>keep<\/em>\u00a0and the use of the word <em>baby<\/em>. In this scenario, the counselor or the person delivering the pregnancy test result has decided to use the word baby, maybe without knowing if that&#8217;s how the patient refers to the <em>pregnancy<\/em>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;&#8230;I want you to think a little more deeply about what it means to use the word <em>keep<\/em> and what that might imply in terms of the opposite.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>READ: <em><a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/planned-parenthood-not-say-baby\/\">Former Planned Parenthood worker: &#8216;We were told not to say baby&#8217;<\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>When addressing the &#8220;Three pregnancy options: Abortion, Adoption, and Parenting,&#8221; the abortion counselor states, &#8220;We want to examine our language. So, we want to pay attention to &#8211; are we using the word &#8211; <em>abortion<\/em>? Or, are we finding different ways to say <em>abortion<\/em>?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Its not that you can&#8217;t use different words, a lot of people say <em>termination, <\/em>a lot of people say<em> procedure, <\/em>and I think it&#8217;s very interesting to pay attention to whether you&#8217;re avoiding saying certain words and what that communicates to our patients, and what that might be contributing to in terms of stigma on any particular option.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_197143\" style=\"width: 696px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-197143\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-197143\" src=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-three-pregnancy-options.jpg\" alt=\"Image: Alissa Perrucci on three pregnancy options\" width=\"686\" height=\"398\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-three-pregnancy-options.jpg 686w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-three-pregnancy-options-300x174.jpg 300w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-three-pregnancy-options-500x290.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 686px) 100vw, 686px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-197143\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Alissa Perrucci on three pregnancy options<\/p><\/div>\n<p>What&#8217;s interesting is that Perrucci appears to <em>avoid<\/em> mentioning the baby when discussing the abortion option. She is okay bringing up the baby when discussing adoption, however: &#8220;Make an adoption plan or place the baby for adoption. Place the child for adoption.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>While\u00a0Perrucci is concerned about &#8220;misinformation&#8221; surrounding abortion, her suggested description of abortion leaves much to be desired. She characterizes early abortion as &#8220;gentle suction&#8221; which &#8220;empties the uterus.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Yet, at the same time, she says, &#8220;In your descriptions, it&#8217;s going to be really important that you define medical terms or any kind of terminology that the patient might not understand. So that you&#8217;re really ensuring comprehension.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>To recap: When discussing a &#8220;pregnancy&#8221; avoid terms like <em>baby<\/em> but be sure to &#8220;define medical terms&#8221; when discussing abortion&#8230; hmm&#8230;.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_197144\" style=\"width: 732px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-197144\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-197144\" src=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-describing-abortion.jpg\" alt=\"Image: Alissa Perrucci on describing abortion\" width=\"722\" height=\"395\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-describing-abortion.jpg 722w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-describing-abortion-300x164.jpg 300w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-describing-abortion-700x383.jpg 700w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Alissa-Perrucci-on-describing-abortion-500x274.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 722px) 100vw, 722px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-197144\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Alissa Perrucci on describing abortion<\/p><\/div>\n<p>In the <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/5THDmys8z30\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">video<\/a> below, former abortionist Dr. Anthony Levatino describes a first trimester aspiration abortion:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/5THDmys8z30\" width=\"640\" height=\"355\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Those in the abortion industry actually patronize women by refusing to give them factual and straightforward information. Withholding accurate information about fetal development and\u00a0what abortion really does, does nothing to help women make &#8220;moral decisions.&#8221; What it does is help the profitable abortion industry remain profitable.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/liveactionnewsonline\/\">\u201cLike\u201d Live Action News on Facebook<\/a>\u00a0for more pro-life news and commentary!<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A\u00a0video\u00a0presented by abortion counselor\u00a0Alissa Perrucci, Phd, MPH,\u00a0who\u00a0describes herself as &#8220;shepherding the counseling revolution,&#8221; presents as normal the idea that there is no moral distinction between parenting a child and ending a child&#8217;s life in an abortion. 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