{"id":196540,"date":"2019-06-20T13:55:15","date_gmt":"2019-06-20T18:55:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.liveaction.org\/news\/?p=196540"},"modified":"2019-06-18T23:54:16","modified_gmt":"2019-06-19T04:54:16","slug":"hear-how-pregnant-abortionists-do-job","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/hear-how-pregnant-abortionists-do-job\/","title":{"rendered":"How do pregnant abortionists do their job? Hear it from their own lips."},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><p>Committing abortion while pregnant is the topic in part of a video series\u00a0published by an abortion training\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/innovating-education.org\/2018\/09\/the-patient-has-the-answer-pregnancy-options-counseling-workshop\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">program<\/a>\u00a0called\u00a0<em>Innovating Education, <\/em>located within the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bixbycenter.ucsf.edu\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">UCSF Bixby Center for Global Reproductive Health<\/a>.\u00a0The Bixby Center is\u00a0a program at the University of California, San Francisco (UCSF), which\u00a0prides itself on abortion as a focus and trains abortion providers though its\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ryanprogram.org\/\">Ryan Residency Training Program.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/vimeo.com\/295937930\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">video<\/a>, &#8220;This is How I Teach: Being a Pregnant Abortion Provider,&#8221; is presented by\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/uihc.org\/abbey-j-hardy-fairbanks\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Abbey Hardy-Fairbanks<\/a>, Associate Clinical Professor, University of Iowa Health Care Co-Director, <a href=\"https:\/\/medicine.uiowa.edu\/obgyn\/education\/residency-program\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ryan Family Planning Program<\/a>. She also\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.documentcloud.org\/documents\/4463525-05771-EQCE083074-ATAT-5716785.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">commits late abortions<\/a> at the Emma Goldman Clinic for Women abortion facility.\u00a0In her presentation, Hardy-Fairbanks notes how one patient became upset when she realized the person committing her abortion was also pregnant. After all, what woman wants to be reminded that some babies are to be protected while others are being killed? The Iowa abortionist convinced herself that the majority of abortion patients do not feel that way, telling her audience, &#8220;I feel that our patients really look at us and think &#8211; &#8216;She gets it. This is the right time for her, it&#8217;s not the right time for me.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/295937930\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Hardy-Fairbanks begins by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=xC97zh9-NZc&amp;feature=youtu.be\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">admitting<\/a> she committed abortions while pregnant with both of her children:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>I have two children at home and I was pregnant with both of them while doing both &#8211; what I refer to as elective procedures &#8211; and then what I refer to as a medically indicative procedure, even though I don&#8217;t love that language. But I was very concerned when I first got pregnant, thinking about, &#8220;How are patients going to react to this?&#8221; And, &#8220;What is that going to be like for them? What is is it going to be like for me going through pregnancy and providing this service?&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>And I remember being a little nervous about it because I had had some friends from residency who had stopped doing second trimester procedures after pregnancy just because their feelings on providing the service &#8211; you know &#8211; was something that changed throughout pregnancy.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>She then advises abortion residents to &#8220;think about, &#8216;I&#8217;m eight weeks pregnant and I&#8217;m doing an eight week procedure. How do I feel about that?'&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>READ:\u00a0<em><a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/abortionist-not-being-pregnant-medical-abortion\/\">Abortionist: \u2018Not being pregnant anymore\u2019 is medical reason for abortion<\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>If abortion simply removes a blob of tissue, as abortion advocates often claim, why would it bother her, or any abortionist? The truth, however, is that abortionists know &#8212; though they rarely tell their paying clients &#8212; that since 21 days, a preborn baby&#8217;s heartbeat has been beating, and that around six weeks, it is detectable. Tiny arms and legs are growing&#8230; (images below from the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists):<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_193324\" style=\"width: 665px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-193324\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-193324\" src=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/Baby-weeks-1-to-8-and-9-to-12-ACOG.jpg\" alt=\"Image: Baby weeks 1 to 8 and 9 to 12 (Image: edited from Your Pregnancy and Childbirth by ACOG)\" width=\"655\" height=\"517\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/Baby-weeks-1-to-8-and-9-to-12-ACOG.jpg 655w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/Baby-weeks-1-to-8-and-9-to-12-ACOG-300x237.jpg 300w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/Baby-weeks-1-to-8-and-9-to-12-ACOG-500x395.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 655px) 100vw, 655px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-193324\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Baby weeks 1 to 8 and 9 to 12 (Image: edited from Your Pregnancy and Childbirth by ACOG)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Instead of asking an abortion patient why she feels the need to end the life of the child, Hardy-Fairbanks suggests this: &#8220;Remind them that pregnancy is transformative for all of our patients. It should certainly be transformative for us&#8230;. I think it&#8217;s important to acknowledge the fact that, yes, I am pregnant and I am here doing your abortion procedure.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>She then claims, &#8220;For me, pregnancy made me more pro-choice and more open to the experiences of women because pregnancy is hard and being a parent is so hard.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>New York abortionist Treasure Walker can be seen in the video below also discussing aborting babies while pregnant. She works with &#8220;underprivileged women&#8221; and claims she &#8220;loves&#8221; providing abortions and has not felt any &#8220;extra sadness or attachment&#8221; doing so while pregnant, &#8220;But, just more reaffirmed that I want to be pregnant.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ALO9bMroYh0\" width=\"640\" height=\"355\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Walker also stated:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;Pregnancy is not easy. I wouldn&#8217;t wish it on anyone who didn&#8217;t want to be.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;I have not once felt like I can&#8217;t do this procedure for this patient because I&#8217;m the same weeks as she is.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;I never really let any of those outside things come into my decision and how I look at it for myself and for other women.&#8221;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>She once told an abortion patient that, &#8220;My pregnancy and your pregnancy\u00a0 &#8211; they have different plans&#8230;.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>READ:\u00a0<\/strong><em><a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/abortionist-admits-babies-human-beings\/\"><strong>Abortionist: \u2018Human beings are pregnant with human beings,\u2019 but so what?<\/strong><\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_77992\" style=\"width: 229px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-77992\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-77992\" src=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/Lida-Harris-Univ-of-Michigan.jpg\" alt=\"Lisa Harris Planned Parenthood abortionist \" width=\"219\" height=\"279\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-77992\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lisa Harris Planned Parenthood abortionist<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Planned Parenthood abortionist\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/secretly-recorded-planned-parenthood-employees-admit-abortion-violence-killing\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Lisa Harris<\/a>\u00a0who once <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bioethics.northwestern.edu\/docs\/atrium\/atrium-issue12.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">wrote<\/a> that she \u201cdoes society\u2019s dirty work,\u201d and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bioethics.northwestern.edu\/docs\/atrium\/atrium-issue12.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">claimed<\/a>\u00a0that she felt liberated after using \u201cordinary kitchen tools\u201d to commit legal abortions, has also committed abortions while pregnant.<\/p>\n<p>In her 2008 paper entitled, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Lisa-Harris-abortion-while-pregnant.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Second Trimester Abortion Provision: Breaking the Silence and Changing the weeks Discourse<\/a>,\u201d Harris\u00a0describes aborting a preborn baby at 18 weeks while she herself was 18 weeks pregnant, writing:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>As I reviewed her chart I realised that I was more interested than usual in seeing the fetal parts when I was done, since they would so closely resemble those of my own fetus.\u00a0. I went about doing the procedure as usual&#8230;I used electrical suction to remove the amniotic fluid, picked up my forceps and began to remove the fetus in parts, as I always did. I felt lucky that this one was already in the breech position \u2013 it would make grasping small parts (legs and arms) a little easier.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/jgw4X7Dw_3k\" width=\"640\" height=\"355\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The next part is extremely disturbing:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>With my first pass of the forceps, I grasped an extremity and began to pull it down. I could see a small foot hanging from the teeth of my forceps. With a quick tug, I separated the leg. Precisely at that moment, I felt a kick \u2013 a fluttery \u2018\u2018thump, thump\u2019\u2019 in my own uterus. It was one of the first times I felt fetal movement. There was a leg and foot in my forceps, and a \u2018\u2018thump, thump\u2019\u2019 in my abdomen. <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Instantly, tears were streaming from my eyes \u2013 without me \u2013 meaning my conscious brain &#8211; even being aware of what was going on. I felt as if my response had come entirely from my body, bypassing my usual cognitive processing completely. A message seemed to travel from my hand and my uterus to my tear ducts. <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>It was an overwhelming feeling \u2013 a brutally visceral response \u2013 heartfelt and unmediated by my training or my feminist pro-choice politics. It was one of the more raw moments in my life. Doing second trimester abortions did not get easier after my pregnancy; in fact, dealing with little infant parts of my born baby only made dealing with dismembered fetal parts sadder.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The Planned Parenthood abortionist acknowledges abortion procedures are violent, says that re-assembling fetal body parts elicits \u201cfeelings of awe,\u201d and admits that &#8220;anti-abortion&#8230; imagery&#8230; may actually be more closely aligned to our experience&#8230;.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>&#8220;[F]eelings of awe are not uncommon when looking at miniature fingers and fingernails, heart, intestines, kidneys, adrenal glands), even as we simultaneously have complete disregard for it.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/liveactionnewsonline\/\">\u201cLike\u201d Live Action News on Facebook<\/a>\u00a0for more pro-life news and commentary!<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Committing abortion while pregnant is the topic in part of a video series\u00a0published by an abortion training\u00a0program\u00a0called\u00a0Innovating Education, located within the\u00a0UCSF Bixby Center for Global Reproductive Health.\u00a0The Bixby Center is\u00a0a program at the University of California, San Francisco (UCSF), which\u00a0prides itself on abortion as a focus and trains abortion providers though its\u00a0Ryan Residency Training Program. 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