{"id":188799,"date":"2018-09-21T13:04:09","date_gmt":"2018-09-21T18:04:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.liveaction.org\/news\/?p=188799"},"modified":"2018-09-21T13:04:09","modified_gmt":"2018-09-21T18:04:09","slug":"dawkins-foundation-abortion-gods-plan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/dawkins-foundation-abortion-gods-plan\/","title":{"rendered":"Richard Dawkins Foundation says &#8216;every abortion&#8217; is part of God&#8217;s plan"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><p>The Richard Dawkins Foundation not only supports abortion, but indicates that if there is a &#8220;god,&#8221; then abortion is part of his plan. In recent weeks, the pro-abortion foundation has engaged itself in a Twitter war of words with Live Action President Lila Rose. The tit-for-tat responses of the group may sound good to some of its own abortion-minded followers, but what actually results from the Dawkins Foundation&#8217;s comments is echoes of William Shakespeare writing in <em>Hamlet<\/em>, &#8220;the lady [Dawkins Foundation] doth protest too much, methinks.&#8221; In common speech, the constant defensive the group takes against statements of scientific fact indicates that while it knows the facts it doesn&#8217;t like them, so it resorts to insults as it promotes killing preborn babies.<\/p>\n<p>Rose engaged Richard Dawkins on Twitter on September 5, offering to debate the lie perpetrated by his foundation:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Hey, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/RichardDawkins?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@RichardDawkins<\/a> &#8211;<\/p>\n<p>Your foundation, the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rdfrs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@rdfrs<\/a>, is claiming &#8220;fetuses aren&#8217;t children.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It also can&#8217;t seem to answer the question about when human life begins.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s debate this. Interested? <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/tDPLNpWWtD\">https:\/\/t.co\/tDPLNpWWtD<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Lila Rose (@LilaGraceRose) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LilaGraceRose\/status\/1037474755526316033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 5, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>The foundation Twitter account fired back:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Human life began ~200K years ago.<\/p>\n<p>You\u2019re asking a loaded, disingenuous questions with vague terms in order to score a \u201cgotcha\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>You fail to recognize the autonomy and value of women in your valuation.<\/p>\n<p>You don\u2019t want a debate you want sound bites for PR purposes.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Richard Dawkins Foundation ???\u2696\ufe0f??\u200d??\ufe0f\u200d? \u26a7 (@rdfrs) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rdfrs\/status\/1037480851863494657?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 5, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>That <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LilaGraceRose\/status\/1037474755526316033\">thread resulted in multiple comments<\/a>, on both sides of the argument.<\/p>\n<p>But Rose was serious and indicated that she wanted a real debate, in person, not a Twitter war:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">We would certainly prefer to debate you as publicly as possible.<\/p>\n<p>I have no problem with good sound bites &#8211; provided that they are true.<\/p>\n<p>But an in-person debate will allow us the time to have a longer discussion.<\/p>\n<p>Again, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/RichardDawkins?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@RichardDawkins<\/a> &#8211; let\u2019s debate this. Are you interested? <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/fFSeGRlmWR\">https:\/\/t.co\/fFSeGRlmWR<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Lila Rose (@LilaGraceRose) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LilaGraceRose\/status\/1037508653765427200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 6, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>While Dawkins himself did not reply to the challenge, his foundation decided to jump on the attack train in response to various things Rose said throughout the month.<\/p>\n<p>When Rose tweeted the fact that abortion is never medically necessary to save a baby&#8217;s life, this was the Dawkins Foundation response:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"und\">100% BS. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/VR3SPeKrfA\">https:\/\/t.co\/VR3SPeKrfA<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Richard Dawkins Foundation ???\u2696\ufe0f??\u200d??\ufe0f\u200d? \u26a7 (@rdfrs) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rdfrs\/status\/1037110941408739328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 4, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Rose clarified further:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">To be clear, Planned Parenthood leaders Alan Guttmacher and Mary S. Calderone have said that abortion is not medically necessary to save the life of the mother, and the Richard Dawkins Foundation <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rdfrs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@rdfrs<\/a> is calling these statements &#8220;100% BS.&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/ecqjuFAfv6\">https:\/\/t.co\/ecqjuFAfv6<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Lila Rose (@LilaGraceRose) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LilaGraceRose\/status\/1037795669753257984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 6, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>The Dawkins Foundation seemed focused on protesting anything and everything it didn&#8217;t like about proving the preborn baby in the womb is real. When Rose posted the story of women in Chil\u00e9 broadcasting their babies&#8217; heartbeats in the womb &#8212; something reported by other media as well &#8212; Dawkins&#8217; group would have none of it:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">This is just nonsense. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/Ern0LggWIM\">https:\/\/t.co\/Ern0LggWIM<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Richard Dawkins Foundation ???\u2696\ufe0f??\u200d??\ufe0f\u200d? \u26a7 (@rdfrs) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rdfrs\/status\/1042838470887137280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 20, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>When Rose posted how a Live Action &#8220;Abortion Procedures&#8221; video had saved 13 babies&#8217; lives when the mothers changed their minds after seeing the truth, the foundation shamed her:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Translation: 13 women were fed traumatizing false propaganda made by <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LiveAction?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@LiveAction<\/a>. Lila is very happy to have disregarded these women\u2019s autotomy and humanity in favor of reducing them to incubators.<\/p>\n<p>Shame on you <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LilaGraceRose?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@LilaGraceRose<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/H5XVZHXRos\">https:\/\/t.co\/H5XVZHXRos<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Richard Dawkins Foundation ???\u2696\ufe0f??\u200d??\ufe0f\u200d? \u26a7 (@rdfrs) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rdfrs\/status\/1042090757941809153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 18, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Thought this god had a plan which would make every abortion part of that plan. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/PKOCw1A9vv\">https:\/\/t.co\/PKOCw1A9vv<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Richard Dawkins Foundation ???\u2696\ufe0f??\u200d??\ufe0f\u200d? \u26a7 (@rdfrs) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rdfrs\/status\/1042697905684013056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 20, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"es\">Propaganda. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/KDNE3r3at0\">https:\/\/t.co\/KDNE3r3at0<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Richard Dawkins Foundation ???\u2696\ufe0f??\u200d??\ufe0f\u200d? \u26a7 (@rdfrs) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rdfrs\/status\/1042433054663434241?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 19, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>And when Rose cited basic embryonic science about human life, the foundation responded:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Intellectually dishonest and a liar. Shame on you.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Richard Dawkins Foundation ???\u2696\ufe0f??\u200d??\ufe0f\u200d? \u26a7 (@rdfrs) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rdfrs\/status\/1042307517735428097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 19, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Other users jumped in, such as this one:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Sorry <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rdfrs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@rdfrs<\/a> it the truth. 60 million dead babies since 1973 via abortion. God heard every cry of each of those children. Shame on those who contributed to this abomination to God. God hates six things &amp; seven are an abomination to Him. One is the shedding of innocent blood.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Steve Doherty (@SteveRDoherty) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SteveRDoherty\/status\/1042441996659576832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 19, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>But invoking God in the mix brought out the worst in the Dawkins Foundation, which replied:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">If god has a plan then every abortion is part of that plan.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Richard Dawkins Foundation ???\u2696\ufe0f??\u200d??\ufe0f\u200d? \u26a7 (@rdfrs) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rdfrs\/status\/1042697270905511936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 20, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>The Lila Rose\/Richard Dawkins Foundation Twitter war continues, but the foundation won&#8217;t come out from behind the screen where it hurls insults long enough to have a real debate. Instead, it accuses Rose of being a liar, and claims any sort of god must have planned abortion.<\/p>\n<p>Both accusations prove that despite claiming to be an organization based on biological science, it might be best for Dawkins, et. al to return to biology 101.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Richard Dawkins Foundation not only supports abortion, but indicates that if there is a &#8220;god,&#8221; then abortion is part of his plan. In recent weeks, the pro-abortion foundation has engaged itself in a Twitter war of words with Live Action President Lila Rose. 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