{"id":163963,"date":"2017-03-18T10:33:18","date_gmt":"2017-03-18T14:33:18","guid":{"rendered":"\/news\/?p=163963"},"modified":"2017-03-17T15:46:39","modified_gmt":"2017-03-17T19:46:39","slug":"apodaca-claims-pro-lifers-not-pro-life-treat-preborn-not-fully-human","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/apodaca-claims-pro-lifers-not-pro-life-treat-preborn-not-fully-human\/","title":{"rendered":"Apodaca: Claims that pro-lifers aren&#8217;t truly pro-life treat the preborn &#8216;as if they are not fully human&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><p><em>&#8230;[I]magine saying to Civil Rights advocates in the 1960s, \u201cHow can you say that you are for Civil Rights when there are children being killed daily in the Vietnam War? You aren\u2019t really for Civil Rights. You\u2019re just anti-segregation!\u201d Absurd, right? Here\u2019s another example: Peter Singer and Michael Tooley both argue that newborns are not fully persons until a certain time after birth, and are therefore able to be justly killed. Imagine saying to someone, \u201cUnless you are concerned about the plight of Middle Eastern refugees, you have no basis in opposing parents wanting to kill their newborns. You aren\u2019t pro-child, you\u2019re just anti-infanticide!\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The objection treats the unborn as if they are not fully human. No one in their right mind would use this argument to silence those who oppose the mistreatment of other human beings. It only makes sense if the unborn are not human. If the unborn are not human, then it makes perfect sense to abandon the fight against abortion and turn our efforts to helping alleviate the suffering from other acts of evil.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>But if the unborn are human, then this objection is nothing more than a callous dismissal of the moral issues involved in abortion.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>~ Nathan Apodaca, <a href=\"http:\/\/lti-blog.blogspot.com\/2017\/03\/the-refugees-are-people-fertilized-eggs.html?m=1\">Life Training Institute Blog<\/a>, March 13, 2017<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8230;[I]magine saying to Civil Rights advocates in the 1960s, \u201cHow can you say that you are for Civil Rights when there are children being killed daily in the Vietnam War? You aren\u2019t really for Civil Rights. You\u2019re just anti-segregation!\u201d Absurd, right? Here\u2019s another example: Peter Singer and Michael Tooley both argue that newborns are not [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":25,"featured_media":99645,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false},"categories":[4,3058],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v20.7 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Apodaca: Claims that pro-lifers aren&#039;t truly pro-life treat the preborn &#039;as if they are not fully human&#039;<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Imagine saying to someone, \u201cUnless you are concerned about the plight of Middle Eastern refugees, you can&#039;t oppose parents wanting to kill their newborns.&quot;\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" 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