{"id":14192,"date":"2012-04-02T20:07:02","date_gmt":"2012-04-03T00:07:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.www.liveactionnews.org\/?p=14192"},"modified":"2013-04-03T01:35:51","modified_gmt":"2013-04-03T05:35:51","slug":"partial-birth-abortion-defender-claims-nasty-protestors-are-more-offensive-than-killing-babies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/partial-birth-abortion-defender-claims-nasty-protestors-are-more-offensive-than-killing-babies\/","title":{"rendered":"Partial-birth abortion defender claims phone-calling protestors are more offensive than killing babies"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.www.liveactionnews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/40-days-for-life.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-13101\" src=\"http:\/\/www.www.liveactionnews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/40-days-for-life-300x148.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"148\" srcset=\"https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/40-days-for-life-300x148.jpg 300w, https:\/\/archive.liveaction.org\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/40-days-for-life.jpg 556w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The abortion crowd has so much invested in <a href=\"..\/opinion\/british-abortion-provider-asks-pro-lifers-to-let-the-fox-guard-the-henhouse\/\">the narrative that pro-lifers are bullies<\/a> that finding an actual example of pro-life misbehavior to exploit must feel like an early Christmas present. <em>Washington Post<\/em> columnist Petula Dvorak <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/local\/a-clinics-landlord-turns-the-tables-on-anti-abortion-protesters\/2012\/03\/29\/gIQAThgwiS_story.html\">tells the tale<\/a> of Todd Stave, the landlord of a Maryland abortion clinic where partial-birth abortions were performed by the notorious LeRoy Carhart, who\u2019s had enough of the harassment anti-abortion protestors have allegedly subjected him to:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[H]is tormentors crossed the line last fall when a big group <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/national\/health-science\/anti-abortion-protesters-target-clinics-landlord-outside-childs-md-school\/2011\/09\/12\/gIQAn8z2NK_story.html\">showed up at his daughter\u2019s middle school <\/a>on the first day of classes and again at back-to-school night. They had signs displaying his name and contact information as well as those gory images of the fetuses.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;What parent wants to have that conversation with an 11-year-old on the first day of school?&#8217; he fumed.<\/p>\n<p>Soon after that, the harassing calls started coming to his home. By the dozens, at all hours.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Stave, however, didn\u2019t take this lying down:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>He began to take down the names and phone numbers of people who made unwanted calls. And he gave the information to his friends and asked them to call these folks back.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;In a very calm, very respectful voice, they said that the Stave family thanks you for your prayers,&#8217; he said. &#8216;They cannot terminate the lease, and they do not want to. They support women\u2019s rights.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>This started with a dozen or so friends, and then it grew. Soon, more than a thousand volunteers were dialing.<\/p>\n<p>If they could find the information, Stave\u2019s supporters would ask during the callbacks how the children in the family were doing and mention their names and the names of their schools. &#8216;And then,&#8217; Stave said, &#8216;we\u2019d tell them that we bless their home on such and such street,&#8217; giving the address.<\/p>\n<p>The family of a protester who called Stave\u2019s home could get up to 5,000 calls in return.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Obviously, harassing a man\u2019s children crosses the decency line, no matter the cause. And if a call to his home was truly threatening, I\u2019m not about to get worked up over Stave turning the tables on that caller.<\/p>\n<p>But looking up <em>their<\/em> children\u2019s names and schools? The moment you do that is the moment you surrender any claim to victimhood. If your children are off-limits, then so are your opponents\u2019. It doesn\u2019t matter how much of a jerk some pro-lifer was to you over the phone; his or her kids were no more responsible for the call than your kids are responsible for the death that goes on in your clinic.<\/p>\n<p>Indeed, as Tim Graham <a href=\"http:\/\/newsbusters.org\/blogs\/tim-graham\/2012\/03\/30\/washpost-sides-late-term-abortion-activists-counter-harassment-turnabout\">points out at NewsBusters<\/a>, 5,000 calls in return for one call isn\u2019t exactly proportionate, and Stave has <em>also<\/em> mobilized his group, called Voice for Choice, to engage in <em>unprovoked<\/em> phone harassment against Maryland pro-lifers, using phone numbers he acquired by joining a pro-life mailing list under a fake name. That doesn\u2019t quite square with Dvorak\u2019s assurance that \u201cthere are calls Voice for Choice won\u2019t make\u201d because Stave respects legitimate protests.<\/p>\n<p>Most important, though, is the perverse morality on display here. Dvorak and Stave are outraged by irritating phone calls and nasty pictures, but they have no problem with what went on in Stave&#8217;s clinic: the ghoulish practice of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.abort73.com\/abortion\/abortion_techniques\/\">partially delivering<\/a> a breathing, pain-feeling baby who could survive outside his or her mother\u2019s womb, then stabbing him or her in the skull and sucking the brain out. To the Voice for Choice crowd, bad manners are a bigger deal than knowingly causing the suffering and death of innocent babies.<\/p>\n<p>This isn\u2019t simply a loss of perspective; it\u2019s an outright rejection of perspective, an invitation to a world where objectivity doesn\u2019t exist and morality is no more than window dressing to rationalize people\u2019s worst desires. By all means, pro-lifers ought to back off Todd Stave\u2019s children, but we shouldn\u2019t indulge the notion that Stave himself is a victim &#8211; not while he stands up for the <em>real<\/em> victimization of the defenseless.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The abortion crowd has so much invested in the narrative that pro-lifers are bullies that finding an actual example of pro-life misbehavior to exploit must feel like an early Christmas present. 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